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I am in a study group with 2 friends I have known and taken classes with for over a year. The 3 of us are all A/B students, come prepared, text each other during the week if we are confused about something, etc. We've become a tight knit group because we know we help instead of hindering.
There is a student who is currently failing A&P 2 who wants to join our study group. All 3 of us are leery about it. She comes to class late, she asks us to send her recordings, she looks at my notes everyday. If she put forth the effort herself we wouldn't mind trying to help her, but we feel like she just wants to ride our backs and we're not cool with that.
Our school has a science resource center she can go to, we have free one on one tutors, and the library has models she can check out for 2 hours at a time to study. There are ways for her to help herself before we help her.
I've worked my butt off to get where I am. I should be hearing if I am accepted to my program in 3 weeks. I am not going to get dragged down by someone who can't do the work themselves.
How horrible are we?
Well I was just putting my opinion in as far
as assisting students that struggle whether
in rhe program or not. Its obsurd how
I see people on here ridecule others
or about those that people on here are talking
about without considering what the person
is dealing with. People come here for advice
or to share and then get totally ridiculed.
Who cares if I make a B or even a C in A&P
as long as I understand the material then great.
Yes grades matter here but people make
a big deal about A's then wonder why
some people dont make it. Its due to
lack of empathy for the person and continuous
pressure to pass these classes with A's.
My doctor told me she had B's her colleague
had A's and her colleage is no better
of a doctor than my doctor because she had more A's
than my doctor. Im making a point that
once you pass your boards and are hired
to work as a nurse A, B C D doesnt determine
who you are. I just wanted to bring this up.
I know this has a lot of answers and not sure if you have stopped reading the responses, but...
If it was a student who worked hard but still couldnt grasp it, then yes. Teaching otheers helps me stufy and retain the info better. On the other hand, it sounds like she expects you all to carry her through, so definetly not.
Sorry for the typos. this site is acting really buggy
I know that having a D or F is not acceptable
in any program whatsoever nor is allowing
a student to slack off and not put forth
the effort to do their share in the group
activities not fair to those you have
worked so hard to get where you are.
Im just saying that yes we need A's and B's
to succeed in nursing school but once we
pass our boards and begin working with our patients
Im pretty sure that our patients are not going
to care if we make an A B or C grade in any of
our classes. Oh sorry lol your right I said
a D thanks for correcting me. Even making C's
especially in our sciences are detrimental to our
gpa and overall success as far as understanding
the material.
I don't understand why some people are focusing on whether or not she is trying to get in the nursing program. If she's trying to enroll into the nursing program, does that mean OP is more obligated to help? I don't think that that should be a factor in helping the individual in the class. If someone is unable to pass a class, that is on them. If they have extenuating circumstances, perhaps they should withdraw or wait to take these classes.
And clearly, with this individual, she is not willing to put forth the effort. OP asked for her to display some indication of her desire to put in some work, in the form of some very minimal writing, which she failed to do.
I know that having a D or F is not acceptablein any program whatsoever nor is allowing
a student to slack off and not put forth
the effort to do their share in the group
activities not fair to those you have
worked so hard to get where you are.
Im just saying that yes we need A's and B's
to succeed in nursing school but once we
pass our boards and begin working with our patients
Im pretty sure that our patients are not going
to care if we make an A B or C grade in any of
our classes. Oh sorry lol your right I said
a D thanks for correcting me. Even making C's
especially in our sciences are detrimental to our
gpa and overall success as far as understanding
the material.
I think you didn't read the posts where OP clarified that this student wasn't looking to enter a Nursing program to begin with. Matter of fact, she spent all her time talking down nurses.
That alone should have disqualified her from the study group. Who needs to listen to crap like that when you're trying to make the grades that will help you get into the program to begin with?
First of all this discussion is rediculous
Second who cares if she wants to help
this student or not.Then if she is not
even in her program I wouldnt worry about
and move on. Stop wasting time trying
to figure out whether to allow someone
into her group thats just gonna bring
them down. Sorry but I tell it as I feel
it needs told.
First of all this discussion is rediculousSecond who cares if she wants to help
this student or not.Then if she is not
even in her program I wouldnt worry about
and move on. Stop wasting time trying
to figure out whether to allow someone
into her group thats just gonna bring
them down. Sorry but I tell it as I feel
it needs told.
Yeah but this wasn't how you felt before you found out the rest of the story.
One thing you're right about, they WERE wasting their time. Sometimes the pressure to be "nice" outweighs the reality; the person didn't deserve "nice", she deserved a swift kick in the butt.
Well in that case then everyone or most
everyone on here is right the person
asking to join the group is just a barrier
to the ones that are contributing to the work.
So yes then I totally agree they need
to tell this person that they have worked
hard for the grades they earned and plan
to keep it that way. Let her know straight forward
if she messes up once in whether it be
not participating in group discussions over chapters
doing chapter assignments practice tests
then tell her shes eliminated from the group
they cant take anymore chances of allowing
her to slack in the work while they continue
to work hard.
Well I was just putting my opinion in as faras assisting students that struggle whether
in rhe program or not. Its obsurd how
I see people on here ridecule others
or about those that people on here are talking
about without considering what the person
is dealing with. People come here for advice
or to share and then get totally ridiculed.
Who cares if I make a B or even a C in A&P
as long as I understand the material then great.
Yes grades matter here but people make
a big deal about A's then wonder why
some people dont make it. Its due to
lack of empathy for the person and continuous
pressure to pass these classes with A's.
My doctor told me she had B's her colleague
had A's and her colleage is no better
of a doctor than my doctor because she had more A's
than my doctor. Im making a point that
once you pass your boards and are hired
to work as a nurse A, B C D doesnt determine
who you are. I just wanted to bring this up.
I just want to bring up that some people want to go to graduate school. Grades matter to some of us because we know that "C = RN", but C doesn't = competitive enough for certain grad schools.
If you ever want a Master's degree you might regret this attitude.
Um whatever I might but maybe nursing
isnt all that important then. It aint
worth all this. I got a C in A&P and just
because I got a C I aint competitive.
All my other grades are A's and B's
I did try in the class. It isnt worth
people telling me Im not gonna make
it because of a lousy C in A&P.
WellThatsOod
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It's okay Leigh. I obviously don't fit into the martyr system of these other posters.
She got a 50/100 on the second exam. She's audited the class. She coming and listening, but won't be taking the tests. She's also stopped attending lab, which I really don't agree with, but that's her decision. She's still bad mouthing nurses everyday. I sincerely hope that staying in the class will help her understand the material next time she takes it.