I am in a study group with 2 friends I have known and taken classes with for over a year. The 3 of us are all A/B students, come prepared, text each other during the week if we are confused about something, etc. We've become a tight knit group because we know we help instead of hindering.
There is a student who is currently failing A&P 2 who wants to join our study group. All 3 of us are leery about it. She comes to class late, she asks us to send her recordings, she looks at my notes everyday. If she put forth the effort herself we wouldn't mind trying to help her, but we feel like she just wants to ride our backs and we're not cool with that.
Our school has a science resource center she can go to, we have free one on one tutors, and the library has models she can check out for 2 hours at a time to study. There are ways for her to help herself before we help her.
I've worked my butt off to get where I am. I should be hearing if I am accepted to my program in 3 weeks. I am not going to get dragged down by someone who can't do the work themselves.
I'm not judging you. Not at all. But if you decide you want a master's degree from a respectable school you will need better than a C average. I'm not being mean, I'm being realistic.
I don't think a C in one class is a problem. I don't have any advice as admission is based on so many other things, but don't worry too much about one C.
I'm not in grad school, but I plan (hope!) on attending, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But as long as your GPA is high you should be in good shape.
I like the idea of assigning her "homework" to make sure she is invested. I wouldn't mind her joining us if I knew she would do some of the work. I will talk to the others about it. Thank you for the ideas everyone!
I just find it ironic that your signature says "Your job is not to judge. Your job is not to figure out if someone deserves something. Your job is to lift the fallen, to restore the broken, and to heal the hurting."
Some students slack in the beginning, and get it together later on. Myself for example. Took A&P 1, would come to class 15mins late, everybody thought I was that "poor" student. I tried getting some other students to start a study group but it never happened. I said screw it, don't need anyone. I managed an A-, while other classmates I ran into the following semester managed Bs. I do a lot of outside classroom studying. And when I'm in class, I am completely engaged and devote my entire attention to the Professor. This person you speak of might not be like me when it comes to studying and retaining information, but you should always give a person the benefit of the doubt. After all, your job is not to judge.
What you don't know, might just end up hurting you.
Worst case scenario, this person is just a complete bum and does not contribute, keep it real and say sorry this isn't working out. What's so scary about that?
You should "always" give the person the benefit of the doubt?
Never talk in absolutes, because life isn't like that.
Did you read her post?
She offered help, the student (non nursing student) flaked out. Why waste her time if the person in question wasn't? This person is not her responsibility. This person does not want a helping hand, which is what Ood offered. She wants someone to do her work.
"What you don't know just may hurt you"
What does that even mean?
I know it's Halloween, but it sounds kind of ominous.
I just find it ironic that your signature says "Your job is not to judge. Your job is not to figure out if someone deserves something. Your job is to lift the fallen, to restore the broken, and to heal the hurting."
I'm to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you only read the original post, otherwise you'd know that Ood tried to help this sorry leech.
Said leech has been bashing Ood's chosen profession and making zero effort in class. Ood invited this lazy excuse for a student to a study session and she showed up unprepared. Basically, the non-student wanted Ood's study group to do all the work for her.
You should "always" give the person the benefit of the doubt?
Never talk in absolutes, because life isn't like that.
Did you read her post?
She offered help, the student (non nursing student) flaked out. Why waste her time if the person in question wasn't? This person is not her responsibility. This person does not want a helping hand, which is what Ood offered. She wants someone to do her work.
"What you don't know just may hurt you"
What does that even mean?
I know it's Halloween, but it sounds kind of ominous.
So then why is this even a thread after all this? Does the OP need reassurance that she was in the right, when it is pretty obvious that she was?
And in regards to my quote. Maybe this is just how I feel towards people. But personally speaking, I will give people the benefit of the doubt because I don't know their circumstances, and I will always try and help to the best of my abilities. If they don't utilize my help, take my offer, or wrong me in anyway then I have no problem cutting them off.
So when I was falling behind in class for Anatomy and Physiology, I tried getting classmates together to form a study group so we can all benefit. No one was willing, so I took it upon myself to catch up. I walked out of the class with an A-, and all of them walked out with a mix of Bs. One girl in particular wanted to go into our school's Nursing program. I ran into her this semester, caught up with her, and she told me she received a B-. She dropped out of applying for the Nursing program. Could she have gotten an A if she studied with me? Maybe, who knows. All I know is, I'm waiting to hear back from my school's nursing program to see if I'm accepted or not.. and she's figuring out what to do next as a career.
Basically moral of the story is, don't be unwilling to try things out. If it doesn't work out, deal with it and move on. At least you tried.
So then why is this even a thread after all this? Does the OP need reassurance that she was in the right, when it is pretty obvious that she was?
And in regards to my quote. Maybe this is just how I feel towards people. But personally speaking, I will give people the benefit of the doubt because I don't know their circumstances, and I will always try and help to the best of my abilities. If they don't utilize my help, take my offer, or wrong me in anyway then I have no problem cutting them off.
This is a thread "after all this" because "all this" didn't happen until recently.
No, I don't need reassurance. I was asking for opinions, and I got some pretty good ones in the beginning. I asked her to do part of the work, just like everyone else who contributes.
This thread, which was an active problem I was seeking advice on, is NOW AFTER ALL THIS a moot point.
Once again, she had audited the class. She is coming strictly so she has some background info next time she takes it.
talk in absolutes, because life isn't like that.
Farawyn
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People on a message board. Put it in perspective. Just go to school and do your work.