Should nurses be getting involved in the Reopen America protests nationwide?

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I'm actually broadly sympathetic to the protesters. When you have 22 million Americans unemployed, massive lines at food banks, and even more projected layoffs, even a Second Great Depression, people are going to have had it. Even nurses and other hospital workers cannot get paid if the economy tanks and there's no money cycling through the U.S. system.

I think the quarantines have gone on way too long. We should have gone the Sweden herd immunity model in the first place. If people are still that scared of this Coronavirus they ought to quarantine themselves. The rest of the country shouldn't have to keep catering to the susceptible minority much longer. I'm grateful that I live in Texas and my governor seems committed to reopening our state in early May, whether hell or high water.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 hour ago, anewmanx said:

I think level heads and measured responses are called for, but it’s not a black and white issue. There is gray area.

Do you believe that it is level headed or measured thinking to call for the "liberation" of citizens from state stay at home orders against the advice of health and science experts? Is it level headed or measured when the person instigating such rebellion is also the person who officially endorses those measures in an official capacity?

It seems pretty black and white, mitigation is working, it's too early to "open up" and inspiring hundreds of COVID Karens is irresponsible.

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Interestingly, what you might choose to give a thumbs up to or not, in those discussions on reopening, might give people some impression of your thinking, maybe? How do you assess these things in forums?

I give thumbs up to show support, or if I agree with on some or all of what they say. And so you criticize others based solely on thumbs up? I am conservative and plainly do not hide that fact. If I see a bunch of liberals badgering another person for their viewpoints (right or wrong) I have no problem showing them they are not alone. Like you I feel compelled to confront my opposite. The OP may have posted some things we disagree on, but to ruthlessly personal attack him or her is unprecedented. You know half the country is conservative and you cannot say you are right and we are wrong. Do you do this to your patients?

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
4 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

I give thumbs up to show support, or if I agree with on some or all of what they say. And so you criticize others based solely on thumbs up? I am conservative and plainly do not hide that fact. If I see a bunch of liberals badgering another person for their viewpoints (right or wrong) I have no problem showing them they are not alone. Like you I feel compelled to confront my opposite. The OP may have posted some things we disagree on, but to ruthlessly personal attack him or her is unprecedented. You know half the country is conservative and you cannot say you are right and we are wrong. Do you do this to your patients?

I criticized someone based upon that observation? Really? That's an interesting claim. Can you support it? All I did was respond to your assertion that people couldn't have an impression about your thinking on a topic if you had not commented. I offered a different point of view.

What ruthless personal attack are you referencing?

36 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Do you believe that it is level headed or measured thinking to call for the "liberation" of citizens from state stay at home orders against the advice of health and science experts? Is it level headed or measured when the person instigating such rebellion is also the person who officially endorses those measures in an official capacity?

It seems pretty black and white, mitigation is working, it's too early to "open up" and inspiring hundreds of COVID Karens is irresponsible.

I offered no opinion one way or the other, but your emotionally charged response indicates a predisposition of opinion. I recommend relaxing a bit.

13 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

I give thumbs up to show support, or if I agree with on some or all of what they say. And so you criticize others based solely on thumbs up? I am conservative and plainly do not hide that fact. If I see a bunch of liberals badgering another person for their viewpoints (right or wrong) I have no problem showing them they are not alone. Like you I feel compelled to confront my opposite. The OP may have posted some things we disagree on, but to ruthlessly personal attack him or her is unprecedented. You know half the country is conservative and you cannot say you are right and we are wrong. Do you do this to your patients? 

So you admit your sole reason for being here is political and not clinical. (I've yet to see you involved in a single clinical thread in fact) and that you prefer team tagging "good guys" (anyone who glorifies, denies and defends your President) and stalk threads looking for " Liberals" (translation: anyone who dares to criticize your President and point out the facts) to pile on.

Really sad. Seems my earlier assessment of you was spot on but then, at this point in my career, they oft are.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 minute ago, anewmanx said:

I offered no opinion one way or the other, but your emotionally charged response indicates a predisposition of opinion. I recommend relaxing a bit.

I asked you questions. Why can't you answer them? Is it difficult to discern level headed thinking? Because it would be best if you didn't make this personal.

2 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I asked you questions. Why can't you answer them? Is it difficult to discern level headed thinking? Because it would be best if you didn't make this personal.

I’m under no compulsion to answer your questions; that would imply that in this societal interaction you have dominance over my free will. You do not.

In essence, my lack of cooperation with your prodding questions is the essence of depersonalization.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
3 minutes ago, anewmanx said:

I’m under no compulsion to answer your questions; that would imply that in this societal interaction you have dominance over my free will. You do not.

In essence, my lack of cooperation with your prodding questions is the essence of depersonalization.

That's an interesting approach to a discussion forum. A person postures about level headed this or that and then refuses to engage or clarify. It's almost like that person doesn't really want discussion about their remarks.

"Loud noises!"

Sure you wanna like that comment, Juniper? I ain't no conservative. ?

38 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

That's an interesting approach to a discussion forum. A person postures about level headed this or that and then refuses to engage or clarify. It's almost like that person doesn't really want discussion about their remarks.

Your assertion is correct. My intention was to contribute an opinion, with no regard for how that opinion was received by others. I have an internalized locus of identity; though to some degree I regret the ramifications of said perspective.

5 minutes ago, anewmanx said:

Your assertion is correct. My intention was to contribute an opinion, with no regard for how that opinion was received by others. I have an internalized locus of identity; though to some degree I regret the ramifications of said perspective.

As John Lennon said "Whatever Gets You Through the Night". ?

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