School Shootings

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Sad that we may need a category for this.

Another school shooting in NoCal.

Thinking of NoCalMimi and hoping she's okay.

How about the "ISIS inspired" teen who brought a homemade bomb to the Utah high school on Monday. Wonder why we haven't heard much about that?

WHA!? You're right. I hadn't heard about this. *slinks off to Google*

I. Cant.

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How about the "ISIS inspired" teen who brought a homemade bomb to the Utah high school on Monday. Wonder why we haven't heard much about that?

To save other googlers, here's an article :Teen drawn to ISIS brought homemade bomb to Utah school, police say - NBC News

And to answer your question, because no one got hurt. I think that's why when the numbers came out of gun violence in schools this year everyone was floored because the news doesn't cover it if no one dies. Just like the stabbing that took place in PA, I only saw one news story on it.

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Just happened in KY: A student brought a loaded gun to school, "accidentally" fired it in the classroom and injured his hand. Apparently he was playing with it in class.

I'm kind of sick of this "accidentally" word. Like, no. NO.

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Just happened in KY: A student brought a loaded gun to school, "accidentally" fired it in the classroom and injured his hand. Apparently he was playing with it in class.

I'm kind of sick of this "accidentally" word. Like, no. NO.

You can accidentally discharge a firearm, however, you CANNOT accidentally bring it to school or accidentally play with it in class. What the actual duck?! (had to autocorrect myself, lol)

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You can accidentally discharge a firearm, however, you CANNOT accidentally bring it to school or accidentally play with it in class. What the actual duck?! (had to autocorrect myself, lol)

Right. These accidental things in school shouldn't be happening because they aren't allowed in school.

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Right. These accidental things in school shouldn't be happening because they aren't allowed in school.

But, these students don't feel safe in school. They can't trust adults to protect them, even those with the guns who are supposed to serve and protect. I understand the attitude that it may be worth it to arm my child to protect them, but, kids being kids, they can't just keep their mouths shutand kep them concealed.

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But, these students don't feel safe in school. They can't trust adults to protect them, even those with the guns who are supposed to serve and protect. I understand the attitude that it may be worth it to arm my child to protect them, but, kids being kids, they can't just keep their mouths shutand kep them concealed.

Stop. Are you kidding me???

You're defending this?

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Did we talk about the TEACHER who fired a gun in his classroom? Luckily it was empty. Again, I don't know what the solution is, but I can tell you this: there are certain teachers that if you arm them I will feel LESS safe. Meaning, they are a ticking time bomb, stressed, underpaid, overworked, dealing with rude teenagers...

From here: Ready, Fire, Aim: The Science Behind Police Shooting Bystanders | TIME.com

"According to a 2008 RAND Corporation study evaluating the New York Police Department's firearm training, between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate during gunfights was just 18 percent. When suspects did not return fire, police officers hit their targets 30 percent of the time."

"The data show what any police officer who has ever been involved in a shooting can tell you–firing accurately in a stressful situation is extremely hard. In an article for TIME last year, Amanda Ripley looked what happens in the brain and body when shots are fired. The brain stem sends out signals that cause blood vessels to constrict and hormones to surge. Studies have shown that eyesight becomes narrower (literally tunnel vision) under such conditions. People who have been in gunfights describe hearing very little and perceive time slowing down. Amid this chaos, as police officers have to make difficult, split-second decisions, humans can lose motor skills as the body reverts to basic fight or flight instincts."

I don't know. I really don't. Maybe arming some teachers would be a good idea. I just don't know how more guns IN SCHOOLS would be a good idea. We aren't a war-torn country for crying out loud. I feel instead of just arming them they would need a rigorous training, psych eval., even more training. Ugh.

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Stop. Are you kidding me???

You're defending this?

I don't think he's defending it. I honestly had a similar thought process.

Our teens have just been shown that their school can be a dangerous place, our leadership is calling on arming teachers and those trained to protect us have been seen hesitating to handle the situation. Now if those kids are in a very pro gun area, I can see teens with their impulse driven minds, seeing arming themselves as a option.

It still doesn't make it ok, but I am really not surprised at it.

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Did we talk about the TEACHER who fired a gun in his classroom? Luckily it was empty. Again, I don't know what the solution is, but I can tell you this: there are certain teachers that if you arm them I will feel LESS safe. Meaning, they are a ticking time bomb, stressed, underpaid, overworked, dealing with rude teenagers...

From here: Ready, Fire, Aim: The Science Behind Police Shooting Bystanders | TIME.com

"According to a 2008 RAND Corporation study evaluating the New York Police Department's firearm training, between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate during gunfights was just 18 percent. When suspects did not return fire, police officers hit their targets 30 percent of the time."

"The data show what any police officer who has ever been involved in a shooting can tell you–firing accurately in a stressful situation is extremely hard. In an article for TIME last year, Amanda Ripley looked what happens in the brain and body when shots are fired. The brain stem sends out signals that cause blood vessels to constrict and hormones to surge. Studies have shown that eyesight becomes narrower (literally tunnel vision) under such conditions. People who have been in gunfights describe hearing very little and perceive time slowing down. Amid this chaos, as police officers have to make difficult, split-second decisions, humans can lose motor skills as the body reverts to basic fight or flight instincts."

I don't know. I really don't. Maybe arming some teachers would be a good idea. I just don't know how more guns IN SCHOOLS would be a good idea. We aren't a war-torn country for crying out loud. I feel instead of just arming them they would need a rigorous training, psych eval., even more training. Ugh.

This.

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I don't think he's defending it. I honestly had a similar thought process.

Our teens have just been shown that their school can be a dangerous place, our leadership is calling on arming teachers and those trained to protect us have been seen hesitating to handle the situation. Now if those kids are in a very pro gun area, I can see teens with their impulse driven minds, seeing arming themselves as a option.

It still doesn't make it ok, but I am really not surprised at it.

Why are KIDS finding GUNS to arm themselves with?!

THAT is what's wrong. This casual availability of guns. It is CARP.

I'm out.

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I hear you. I feel the same as you.

I also know that the first day for hunting season is an unofficial holiday in the high schools around me. I know multiple 4H and other youth programs that offer shooting competitions for high schoolers. I know parents that are responsible gun owners and that are trying to teach their children to be the same. But kids are kids and I feel like there are probably a lot more high schoolers illegally carrying into schools that haven't got caught yet.

I am all for stronger background checks and required training for firearms. I am whole heartedly against arming my teachers for the reasons Poodles put above.

I want to be out too, but I feel like we all need to keep having these conversation and sharing what we see on the news with each other and those around us so that way this problem isn't swept under the rug again

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