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Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry.

Our teachers post all of our lecture notes on Powerpoint, and like a good student, I print them off at home and go through them before class. Well, some students don't have Powerpoint at home and have been printing them up in the Nursing computer lab. Then we all get in trouble because the College of Nursing has exceeded it's budget for the semester for paper and toner and if we're caught printing anything up at the computer lab we get in trouble.

This upsets me because I pay more than $16,000/year for private university tuition and I would expect to be able to print!! People have been going to the library to print instead, but geez!!!

Plus, my Foundations of Clinical Nursing teacher is a nightmare! She refuses to teach us drug calculations (despite the fact that I, once again, am PAYING to be taught!), despite the extreme importance they have placed on it, because, you know, it can kill a patient and all! She says it's okay because she's expecting half of the class to fail anyway! Then one girl decided that she wasn't ready to take our test on Monday, and called the teacher and said that she wasn't ready. Believe it or not, this teacher said "Oh, that's okay. You can just take it on Tuesday." What about the rest of us, like myself, who spent all weekend eating, sleeping, and breathing that test! That's not fair! I leave that class every Monday morning feeling unprepared, stupid, lazy, and worthless. She's horrible!

Other than that, I LOVE nursing school and have made some great friends. I'm doing well and loving it. At least I don't have her as my clinical instructor! :( :eek:

Don't they have to pay to print at school? We are charged 7 cents a page for anything we print in the computer lab so our school has to be making $$ on us.

Does the teacher have a written policy (i.e. in the syllabus) about making up exams?

Bottom line, a lot of times you have to grin and bear it and then put it all in the evaluation at the end of the semester. Good luck!

renerian, BSN, RN

Specializes in MS Home Health.

My kids/4 in college get charged to print off the computer at college unless they are using the one in their room which they buy the toner and paper for. Being aware of office supply costs I think it would be prohibitive to pay for students to copy materials as well.

Can students just take notes from the lecture? As far as teaching math and the statement about failing, I heard the same thing and had the same problem. Not saying it is right but that is exists.

renerian

maire, ASN, RN

Specializes in Adult Med-Surg and Rehab. Has 13 years experience.

Last semester our lecture instructor would put the notes on the computer in the nursing lab, and we could go in and copy them on disk and print them out at home. This semester the notes are in the library and we have to pay $0.10 a page to copy them all. It royally bites. Luckily, one of the girls in the class has access to a printer at work and she copied all the notes for everyone in the class (all 50 of us...isn't she sweet?).

I feel your pain.

Originally posted by BSNin05

Our teachers post all of our lecture notes on Powerpoint, and like a good student, I print them off at home and go through them before class. Well, some students don't have Powerpoint at home and have been printing them up in the Nursing computer lab. Then we all get in trouble because the College of Nursing has exceeded it's budget for the semester for paper and toner and if we're caught printing anything up at the computer lab we get in trouble.

This upsets me because I pay more than $16,000/year for private university tuition and I would expect to be able to print!! People have been going to the library to print instead, but geez!!!

Plus, my Foundations of Clinical Nursing teacher is a nightmare! She refuses to teach us drug calculations (despite the fact that I, once again, am PAYING to be taught!), despite the extreme importance they have placed on it, because, you know, it can kill a patient and all! She says it's okay because she's expecting half of the class to fail anyway! Then one girl decided that she wasn't ready to take our test on Monday, and called the teacher and said that she wasn't ready. Believe it or not, this teacher said "Oh, that's okay. You can just take it on Tuesday." What about the rest of us, like myself, who spent all weekend eating, sleeping, and breathing that test! That's not fair! I leave that class every Monday morning feeling unprepared, stupid, lazy, and worthless. She's horrible!

Other than that, I LOVE nursing school and have made some great friends. I'm doing well and loving it. At least I don't have her as my clinical instructor! :( :eek:

I don't mean to sound rude.... but..

FOCUS ON SCHOOL AND NOT ALL THE B.S.!!!

If it bothers you so that that girl got an extra day by asking for it.... then YOU ask for another day.... otherwise, blow it up into a balloon and LET IT GO!!!

As for the paper thing... well... why worry if you print your stuff out at home?

Most colleges ("private" or not) charge for paper!

While i do agree that you are being paid to be taught.... maybe your teacher is trying to teach you to TEACH yourself!

....that's a skill you'll need all through life... especially in a dynamic field such as nursing... right?

We got no instruction on dosage calcs.. just a few "workshops" we could sign up for if needed. As long as you passed your pre-req math courses.... you should have all the tools you need to learn these few extra steps..

Our instruction in this area has been non existant. Our test is Monday. I know it's anxiety causing.. but this is all teaching you to work under pressure...

hang in there.... you'll be fine, keep your eyes on the prize, not on paper and other students.. those things will dilute your focus.

be well!

Probably all "fundamentals" classes are different, but our instructor teaches us the basics of being a great nurse. We have other instructors that teach assessment, math for meds, pharm, etc. I can see how if she isn't planning on working in dosage calcs it would be a hassle to add that to a lesson plan. Maybe you could go to her and ask who is available to work with you when you aren't in class. There is probably a math for meds tutor or something.

Now, in our school... which is also a nice pricey one... most of the instructors give us notes that do happen to be pp presentations... personally, I don't find that too helpful. Regardless, if we want anything else printed, we are allowed 200 pages a semester that is considered part of our 'technology fee' at registration. Anything above that, we are charged by the sheet. Since I have access to all of that at home, I haven't had to worry about it though.

memphispanda, RN

Specializes in Med-Surg.

We pay 5 cents for a single side copy, 10 cents for a double side. Copies are expensive--not just because of paper. There is toner or cartriges and maintainance.

We also had no instruction for drug calculation. We bought a book, they gave us some sample problems to work, they graded the problems, and if we had questions or needed help, we had to get it outside of classtime.

I think that is crazy about the printing of your notes! Tell the people who don't have power point, that they can search the internet for a free powerpoint reader to download. This program allows you to open, view, and print .ppt documents. As for the princess who wasn't ready for the test - I have never heard of such CRAP:( :D :rolleyes:

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Some of our lectures are done fast therefore i have to tape record the class then come home and type the whote list of notes.

Now if Miss Hee-Haw donkey laugh in the back would shut up during this time, it would be easier to hear :D However when i record the lecture, i record her too unfortunately.

While i do agree that you are being paid to be taught.... maybe your teacher is trying to teach you to TEACH yourself!

I'm sorry but I think if we have instructors for a class we SHOULD be taught... Or else what's the point ? The school should just assign the chapters and tell me when is the test so I can go take it... I don't think an instructor should teach me how to teach myself... We go to school to learn. And one of the ways is by having the guidance of the instructor. Now don't get me wrong I don't need to be baby'd but I do require and think I should get more input than the book.

I go to a private school and pay through the nose and yes, I have to pay 5 cents a copy. My instructors all use PP. I don't care for it but I go with the flow.

All of us have to pay a technology fee but none of us get any free copies.

That is called LIFE the colleges and universities have to make money and they are going to suck it out of us one way or another!!!

About the teaching yourself thing. Our instructors leave us hanging on the edge too. Yes I think sometimes they do it on purpose. But, how else are we going to learn to think through a situation if they don't put us and back off. If they hold our hand constantly we will never learn what we can actually do on our own.

I bet even though you feel like you are teaching yourself.... if you went to your instructor and said you were lost they would stop and help you.

Hang in there with the rest of us.!!!!!

What seems to work in our computer lab is for every sheet printed, we must provide one blank sheet into a tray which will subsequently be placed into the printer. This works great for both color and b & w printers and printing needs. We dont have to deal with ink cartridges, thats provided.

Wow....I guess I am lucky in the sense that we are taught drug dosage and we also use PP for lecture...we were provided the lecture materials with the syllabus (for a fee of course) and are given any extra handouts as necessary. The only thing is, for the lectures, since they are on PP, the professor just reads the PP notes verbatum. Sometimes I just wish they would quit wasting our time just reading to us and just let us out of class to study the stuff on our own free time. Most of our professors do not shed any highlights on what might be on the test so we have to decipher for ourselves what is gonna be on the test.

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