Rude remarks by doc with his own kids

[Lorie P.]

:uhoh21:last night when i got to work, i was pulled to another floor which did not bother me. as i went walking up the nurse's station, which sits right in front of the elevators, i seen one of our more popular docs finishing rounds with his 2 kids in tow.

doc ben says" ok kids tell them by, kids say by every one ( 7y boy and 4y girl). doc says push the button, the elevators open and he says very loudly ,ok guys let go see the lady with the biggest butt, what floor should we go to? kids reply, we don't know dad. he laughs :lol2:and says how about the first floor by the cafeteria , that usually where they hang out!!'

now this is not the first remark this doc has made, few weeks back, he had same son and son's friend with them, makes the remark, come on boys, let she go show you a big one!

the nurses on the floor just laughed and said that's doc ben for you.

now what kind of example is he setting for his kids? :madface:not to mention, what if family members or worse yet, one of his pt's heard him.

i did tell my nurse manager, who replied, well there's really nothing we can do about that.

i used to have respect for this man, no longer, how very unprofessional, rude and down right mean.:down:

:angryfire:angryfirestill burns me a good one when writing this!!

[NurseCard, ADN]

Amazing, I have only seen this one time. We had a cardiologist who brought his son with him to work one day. The son was dressed in an argyle sweater, a pair of slacks, and was very very well behaved; I think he sat there at the nurse's station and played a Game Boy or something like that. I know we had plenty of other docs with young children but I never saw them at work.

As far as the "fat lady" remarks... eeesh... not too cool. It may be some kind of thing that the doc has found that his kids find amusing, "people with big ol' butts". He's found that it gets a laugh out of them so he keeps doing it. It's really not much worse than what a lot of kids see on cartoons and TV and all, and I would hope that their mom is countering what dad, and perhaps TV, are teaching them, by teaching them that people "of size" deserve the same respect.

Not that I'm excusing what he's teaching them, and being a doctor and taking care of people that are sick and are depending on him... his remarks are even more tacky than if he and his kids just happened to be shoppers in a grocery store and he looked at his kids and said "Hey, there's ya a big one, kids!!".

[NurseCard, ADN]

Mmmm... wanted to add something.

Really, while these remarks show that this doc is kind of an idiot... if you get along with this doctor, and he has otherwise shown himself to be a pretty decent doctor... I don't think I would let these remarks alone get in the way of your working relationship. Doctors are human, and sometimes they say and do stupid things, just like the rest of us.

But if you already thought he was a pompous as*, that's different. Does not sound like you did, though.

[Dolce, RN]

I knew a doctor that brought her adorable toddlers to the ICU with her to do rounds. One of the most inappropriate things I have seen ever. I was horrified when she abandoned them at the nurses station--presumably to be cared for by the nursing staff. When one of the kids started crawling out of her stroller the charge nurse picked her up and all I could see was the microscopic bacteria all over the nurse's scrub top being transfered to that little tyke. :angryfire I was just so steamed at that doc. By the way, she was reported to the hospital board for that stunt and others like it.

[psalm, RN]

...so I assume none of the pts. the doc rounded on were in isolation? What about HIPAA? And no way I will watch someone's child while he/she rounds, I am there for the pt.

[nyapa, RN]

You could tell his kids that their Dad is the biggest butt. Don't think it would make you real popular with him

I've no problem with staff bringing kids with them, as long as they are fully supervised by their parents, and are kept away from things that should be confidential. And they shouldn't get in the way of staff.

:idea:Imagine what would happen if something would happen to a doctor's child whose care had happened to be forced onto a nurse? Would the doctor take responsibility for having the children there? I don't think so:nono:

[lvlissl2ebecca]

And this is allowed??? I round too but would never dream of exposing my grandchildren to germs. So...the nursing staff has the time and wants to babysit the docs kids???? Is this a good use of scarce resources???

Or even exposing the immunodeficient pateints to kids who oftern carry lots of germs? oh my.

[FireStarterRN, BSN, RN]

You found out that he's immature and doesn't have good boundries with his kids. My Dad was similar, he was always making fun of fat people, he was a jerk and I barely keep in touch with him now. He even used to talk about his sex life to me later on and other stuff I don't want to mention. High achieving intelligent people can have low emotional IQs.

[EmmaG, RN]

Babysitting? None of the ones I have known used nurses to babysit. They just rounded with their kids.

One of our docs used to do that--- and expected the nurses to watch his little ones while he rounded.

[bethin]

Wouldn't HIPAA apply in these cases? I know that they're little kids, but kids talk. Why not report it anonymously?

We have doctors that bring their kids in when they round. Most of them sit at a desk that's away from the nurse's station and are well behaved.

I dunno, maybe I'm in the minority. Nurses don't round with their kids strapped to their backs, why do doctors get away with it?

If I heard a doctor say this, I too would lose respect for him. I have zero respect of others who make fun of and belittle human beings with feelings and emotions.

[Daytonite, BSN, RN]

there is nothing you can do about this doctor. you have no right to say anything to him. this is a free country and he can say what he wants to his children. so, he's a jerk.

the way the "politics" of the hospital work is that the physicians are a totally independent group from the rest of the nursing staff. they police their own practice within a facility through their own organization, usually assisted by the medical staff office, and directly answer only to the board of directors. the ceo or administrator of your facility has no power whatsoever over any of the doctors practicing at your facility. this is provided for in every state law of our country. doctors organized themselves in this fashion many, many years ago. regrettably, nurses didn't do the same or we would have better working conditions, better salaries and no need for unions.

if you really want to get involved in this, write a letter detailing this physicians behavior to the chief of staff of either the service under which this doctor works or the physician who currently is the chief of staff of the entire medical staff. this man may be on the board of directors, but he can't hold all these other positions too. if you don't know who holds any of these positions, go to the medical staff office and ask the people who work there. their function is to assist the medical staff with administrative work (paper work). i would think, however, that the most that will happen is that this doctor's chief of staff will have a short conversation with him--maybe. it's likely that the medical bylaws that they work under do not specifically cover this kind of behavior.

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

Tired MD - The OP said the children involved were ages 7 and 4. Now, at least in IL, you have to be 12 years of age to be left alone. So...at 7 and 4, yes, you need a babysitter. You don't leave young children sitting at a desk just whereever. They must be watched. And...if they are left at the NURSES statione, then the nurses are watching them.

I am an advanced practice nurse, employed by a large private practice and currently am on staff at 5 hospitals in a 110 mile area. I have never seen any MD bring in a child to round. I round at all hours too and cover the weekends also.

[janettalinda]

So now nurses can add babysitting to their list of duties? This takes the cake. Datonite, there is ALWAYS