RN school while in High School?

[AFJ32780]

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/new-program-would-allow-high-school-students-to-graduate-as-certified-registered-nurses

Posted the link to article above.

A local high school (San Antonio) is looking in to adding a RN program within the high school curriculum. The outcome will be a high school diploma and an associate degree in nursing at the age of 18.

I personally feel this is a great way to get more nurses in the field, at the same time, it worries as the brain of some 18 year olds are not all that developed and need more maturing.

also how will the program work? Nursing school is difficult, as it should be, how will the school accommodate all those nursing courses and high school courses simultaneously?

Thoughts?

[AFJ32780, MSN, RN, NP]

23 minutes ago, TriciaJ said:

I know I'm being a crusty old bat but this is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. It actually makes me laugh - so much push for higher nursing education, the persistent belief that if you don't have a BSN your patients are dropping like flies - but now you can come right out of high school and be an RN!

Considering that people who are already high school graduates (and some even with college degrees) still have to put in 1-2 years of prerequisites before even getting into nursing school - how the H. is this even going to work?

Read this forum to find out what new grads are going through in the workplace. A lot of them sound very young and unsophisticated. Now we want them even younger and dealing with nursing issues.

Hospitals are on board with this? Then you know they can't think beyond the market being flooded with cheap labour. Love how the phrase "giving back to the community" kept cropping up; are they expecting these people to work as volunteers?

The people who are thinking up this nonsense clearly have NO idea what nursing actually is. They must be stuck in the "noble calling" school of thought and would probably be genuinely surprised to see nurses wearing "doctors' stethoscopes".

100% agree with you

[JKL33]

I don't think the best way to get acclimated to adulting is to be confronted with all the ills of society and in many various ways be made to feel responsible for them or for fixing them.

No way. There are a lot of mature "new adults" (18 year olds) but this is over-the-top.

What the.

?

How does this fit in with the ginormous militant push for BSNs?

I hope people will take a bird's eye view of just everything that has been going on in this "profession" (to use the term ever-so-loosely).

It's crazy to think anything in healthcare right now is about what it appears to be about. This is a near-blatant push for "workers" who shall be treated as nothing more. As if it weren't bad enough to clamor for inexperienced nurses and even develop clever ways to rope them into becoming immediately beholden to their employers!

I will tell every kid I know how dumb this idea is. I'm about to start telling them how dumb nursing is, in general.

Ridiculous.

[AFJ32780, MSN, RN, NP]

1 hour ago, JKL33 said:

I don't think the best way to get acclimated to adulting is to be confronted with all the ills of society and in many various ways be made to feel responsible for them or for fixing them.

No way. There are a lot of mature "new adults" (18 year olds) but this is over-the-top.

What the.

?

How does this fit in with the ginormous militant push for BSNs?

I hope people will take a bird's eye view of just everything that has been going on in this "profession" (to use the term ever-so-loosely).

It's crazy to think anything in healthcare right now is about what it appears to be about. This is a near-blatant push for "workers" who shall be treated as nothing more. As if it weren't bad enough to clamor for inexperienced nurses and even develop clever ways to rope them into becoming immediately beholden to their employers!

I will tell every kid I know how dumb this idea is. I'm about to start telling them how dumb nursing is, in general.

Ridiculous.

All BSN by 2020?

Doesn’t look like it!

[SmilingBluEyes]

They should allow them to get their pre-requisites done. My daughter got her associate's degree while in HS. But clinical rotations, like said, should not be undertaken by minors. And there really IS NOT enough time anyhow, to get all the education plus clinical experience to be an RN, in high school.

[SmilingBluEyes]

They should allow them to get their pre-requisites done. My daughter got her associate's degree while in HS. But clinical rotations, like said, should not be undertaken by minors. And there really IS NOT enough time anyhow, to get all the education plus clinical experience to be an RN, in high school.

Also unless we get the problem of assault of nurses, under control, no way should high school students be subject to such situations. I would never allow my kids to be exposed to that. Nor would I allow them to be exposed to deadly diseases while so young. They are too young to understand and accept all that goes with nursing that is dangerous or hazardous.

It would be smarter to use such a program as a springboard for obtaining their BSN. Time better spent.

[Jedrnurse, BSN, RN]

2 hours ago, AFJ32780 said:

All BSN by 2020?

Doesn’t look like it!

With an idea like this, it's more like "All 20 (years old) by 2020".

Imagine nurses not old enough to drink.

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

Graduate as "certified registered nurses"? In addition to the concerns of time for clinical and under 18 in clinical, my bet would be this is actually CNA and some reporter is messed up on terminology. If it's truly an associates degree making 18 year olds somehow, miraculously, eligible to sit for NCLEX by squeezing high school classes, nursing prerequisites, nursing classes, and clinicals into that time, then I feel sorry for the students who have no idea what they will be getting themselves into. Let them have time to be a teenager!

[AFJ32780, MSN, RN, NP]

25 minutes ago, Rose_Queen said:

Graduate as "certified registered nurses"? In addition to the concerns of time for clinical and under 18 in clinical, my bet would be this is actually CNA and some reporter is messed up on terminology. If it's truly an associates degree making 18 year olds somehow, miraculously, eligible to sit for NCLEX by squeezing high school classes, nursing prerequisites, nursing classes, and clinicals into that time, then I feel sorry for the students who have no idea what they will be getting themselves into. Let them have time to be a teenager!

That’s what I said.

Teens should be working to do teen things.

Not worried about highly stressful clinicals. Teens should be teens.

[WestCoastSunRN, MSN, CNS]

36 minutes ago, Rose_Queen said:

my bet would be this is actually CNA and some reporter is messed up on terminology.

I bet you're on to something. I really don't think it's possible for this to be an ADN program. No way.

[VivaLasViejas, ASN, RN]

This is absurd. 18-year-olds are generally nowhere near mature enough to handle the demands of nursing. I was 20 years older than that when I graduated from nursing school and even I felt unready for the responsibilities! I also don't agree with teenagers becoming CNAs at 16, but that happens in my state anyway. I think taking prerequisites is fine in high school, that gives them a head start on nursing school, and hopefully they go on to get their BSN at age 22 or thereabouts. It's amazing how much growth there is between 18 and 22. Let them be kids while they are kids!

[TriciaJ, RN]

1 hour ago, WestCoastSunRN said:

I bet you're on to something. I really don't think it's possible for this to be an ADN program. No way.

That makes much more sense. The term "Certified Registered Nurse" was a bit mystifying. A CNA program would be less ludicrous.

[AFJ32780, MSN, RN, NP]

32 minutes ago, TriciaJ said:

That makes much more sense. The term "Certified Registered Nurse" was a bit mystifying. A CNA program would be less ludicrous.

I emailed the news station for clarification