RN-BSN SCAM

[elpnla]

Many ADN-BSN online programs tried to deceive students into believing that they can get their BSN from ADN in 13 months or less. That's a lie and false advertisement. They are not telling the whole story.

For example, University of Texas at Arlington advertises this past spring that you can get your degree from ADN to BSN in 13 months. After you enrolled and pay their high tuition rates, they want you to take from them American History I and II, Texas history, and other courses that have nothing to do with Nursing. You can take these same courses from Community Colleges in California at 1/6 their cost, but if you do they may or may not accept them for credit. For example, I have a friend who took US History from a community college. UTA does not accept them for transfer credit. Their Academic Advisors are trained to do what is good for business, and not what is good for you, the student. Be careful and do not fall for their traps! They want you to stay longer in their school, and pay for their courses that nobody wants to take, such as political science, and so forth

I heard that Excelsior College gives you 35 BSN credits for your NCLEX. They don't give you the run around treatment. They are located in Albany, New York. Their tuition is a little higher, but you can graduate sooner with no hassle and stumbling blocks.

[Nola009]

Anyone have anything to say about WGU?? Also, through which school(s) is it faster / better to get your MSN through?

[smartnurse1982]

I agree buyers have to beware, and that goes for everything. There are certain online schools that I wouldn't go get a degree from even if they were free, simply because of its reputation. Does where u get ur degree matters? Yes, it does. And if that means doing extra pre-requisite then so be it and let's get done with it . If you ask me all education system are to get every penny from the students.

Can you share the legitimate Rn to Bsn programs then?

[smartnurse1982]

I have done research myself on this topic but the schools at the bottom of my list are:

Chamberlain,and while i know its highly regarded on Allnurses, I do not like the Devry association.

Makes me really uneasy.

Also costs too much.

University of Phoenix...nothing more to be said.

Excelsior..i am on the fence about this one.

I have not read of too many nurses who graduated from the Rn to Bsn program they have.

i made a thread on it and got 0 replies.

Now,i know Excelsior is different from the others(like WGU)

Its more of a self pace rather than online program.

There is no structure.

Plus,while i know many Lpn's attend the Lpn to Rn program they have,Excelsior 's counselors do not seem to tell the students that some states DO NOT allow them to sit for Nclex RN.

That IS scandalous.

[smartnurse1982]

Anyone have anything to say about WGU?? Also, through which school(s) is it faster / better to get your MSN through?

I want to know about WGU too.

Seems promising,except 1 thing:

Employers in my area ask for transcripts and GPA.

I am not sure how hiring managers are going to feel about WGU's Pass/Fail system.

I have received information that all "Pass" classes are converted to 3.0 when trying to transfer to another institution.

[PauperRN]

Can you share the legitimate Rn to Bsn programs then?

@smartnurse1982 has shared the one on my list of not to mess with. Legitimate ones for me are ones from credible schools e.g UT, Loyola, TWU and the list is endless.

[elpnla]

I don't really mind too much taking some prerequisites. But what really bothers me is when they say one thing today, and say another thing tomorrow. For example, they promised me that they will pay me $10.00 if I mow their lawn. After I cut the lawn and asked for the money, they said I have to dig ditches if I want to get the ten bucks. The promise was written on paper, but the school doesn't care, as if I don't exist in their eyes.

I know that we have to beware, but how do I know that I will meet a jerk along the way?

[elpnla]

The list may be endless, but the good schools are limited, one or two. How do you know which one?

[TiffyRN, BSN, PhD]

Excelsior..

i made a thread on it and got 0 replies.

Now,i know Excelsior is different from the others(like WGU)

Its more of a self pace rather than online program.

There is no structure.

Plus,while i know many Lpn's attend the Lpn to Rn program they have,Excelsior 's counselors do not seem to tell the students that some states DO NOT allow them to sit for Nclex RN.

That IS scandalous.

Hey smartnurse1982,

Go check your thread on Excelsior board. 5 people responded to you. I left a very detailed evaluation of Excelsior's RN to BSN. I think you have not seen it or you would know that the RN to BSN program has few similarities to their ADN program. It's not the best program in the world but it's far from a scam. And, with my BSN from them I just got accepted to the PhD in Nursing program at UTMB Galveston, so I think they must think they're reputable.

https://allnurses.com/excelsior-college-online/excelsior-rn-bsn-924840.html

[wooh, BSN, RN]

I think it's ridiculous that they mandate you take a course in Texas history. I don't live in Texas. I couldn't care less about Texas history. Remember the Alamo, blah, blah, blah.

I'm waiting to see if I got accepted at another program that doesn't have such silly requirements.

So don't attend a Texas university. Schools have requirements. If you don't like the requirements of one school, attend another one.

[JustBeachyNurse, LPN]

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Excelsior..i am on the fence about this one.

I have not read of too many nurses who graduated from the Rn to Bsn program they have.

i made a thread on it and got 0 replies.

Now,i know Excelsior is different from the others(like WGU)

Its more of a self pace rather than online program.

There is no structure.

Plus,while i know many Lpn's attend the Lpn to Rn program they have,Excelsior 's counselors do not seem to tell the students that some states DO NOT allow them to sit for Nclex RN.

That IS scandalous.

1. You have several replies in your thread re: RN to BSN. The program is course based with few challenge exams and is not like the LPN to RN program , hence potential eligibility for financial aid. They also offer an RN to MSN program.

2. It is not scandalous re; some states not accepting the LPN to ASN/RN. As a condition of enrollment if you reside in a state that has additional requirements you are required to sign a statement acknowledging this as a condition of enrollment into the nursing program. The restrictions are clearly stated online on the EC website and in the admissions paperwork and nursing catalog. People read what they choose to read.

It is the responsibility of the potential student to do their research and ask questions.prior to applying and enrolling in any program whether it be nursing or basket weaning. Forewarned is forearmed.

[featherzRN, MSN]

I went to WGU, which I thought was great.. and not a scam.. As for prereqs, know that ANY bachelor's degree requires a certain number of general education classes. It would not a Bachelors in Science without them! :)

If you already have these, you can start into the RN courses right away. If not, you have to take them no matter which BSN school you choose. WGU gives 50 credits for an RN license, the other 70 is from general education and nursing classes - most people (but not all) have to take at least a few gen ed classes.

[elpnla]

I agree with you. The only scandalous thing about them is their higher than SUNY tuition. They give you more credit than other schools for your college work. My friend got his Bachelor of Science in Liberal Arts from Excelsior after completing an additional 25 credits of college work post ADN.

She wants to become a CPA in Washington because in Washington if you have any college degree, and you have completed 24 semester units of accounting courses and 24 units of business courses you have met their educational requirement to sit for the CPA exam. NSCC offers all these required courses in Washington, online. NSCC is a community college, not a 4 year college.

If you are interested in the field of business, there are many possibilities for Accountants to earn close to $100,000 a year after a few more years of schooling in Finance.