RN-BSN SCAM

[elpnla]

Many ADN-BSN online programs tried to deceive students into believing that they can get their BSN from ADN in 13 months or less. That's a lie and false advertisement. They are not telling the whole story.

For example, University of Texas at Arlington advertises this past spring that you can get your degree from ADN to BSN in 13 months. After you enrolled and pay their high tuition rates, they want you to take from them American History I and II, Texas history, and other courses that have nothing to do with Nursing. You can take these same courses from Community Colleges in California at 1/6 their cost, but if you do they may or may not accept them for credit. For example, I have a friend who took US History from a community college. UTA does not accept them for transfer credit. Their Academic Advisors are trained to do what is good for business, and not what is good for you, the student. Be careful and do not fall for their traps! They want you to stay longer in their school, and pay for their courses that nobody wants to take, such as political science, and so forth

I heard that Excelsior College gives you 35 BSN credits for your NCLEX. They don't give you the run around treatment. They are located in Albany, New York. Their tuition is a little higher, but you can graduate sooner with no hassle and stumbling blocks.

[MrChicagoRN, RN]

Can you share the legitimate Rn to Bsn programs then?

Start locally. What brick and mortar colleges are nearby, starting with state institutions. If distance is an issue, which allow part/all to be done by distance learning? Your state probably has a list of approved colleges and universities.

Do your homework.

just because a school buys a banner ad online doesn't mean it's the best for you. Many years ago, before distance learning took off, I think I screened 7 local schools before selecting the one that best met my needs.

[smartnurse1982]

Hey smartnurse1982,

Go check your thread on Excelsior board. 5 people responded to you. I left a very detailed evaluation of Excelsior's RN to BSN. I think you have not seen it or you would know that the RN to BSN program has few similarities to their ADN program. It's not the best program in the world but it's far from a scam. And, with my BSN from them I just got accepted to the PhD in Nursing program at UTMB Galveston, so I think they must think they're reputable.

https://allnurses.com/excelsior-college-online/excelsior-rn-bsn-924840.html

Thanks,i will check out the thread.

[smartnurse1982]

Start locally. What brick and mortar colleges are nearby, starting with state institutions. If distance is an issue, which allow part/all to be done by distance learning? Your state probably has a list of approved colleges and universities.

Do your homework.

just because a school buys a banner ad online doesn't mean it's the best for you. Many years ago, before distance learning took off, I think I screened 7 local schools before selecting the one that best met my needs.

My Adn school has an articulation agreement with NYU,Lehman College,and Long Island University.

The local schools in my area are Seton Hall,Rutgers,Thomas Edison State(my #3 choice) and Rowan.

These are well regarded programs(esp NYU) but i cringe at the tuition rate.

[smartnurse1982]

Are Distance learning and online programs are the same?

I thought Excelsior was distance learning and WGU was online?

[mmc51264, BSN, MSN, RN]

I am getting my RN-BSN at a state university online program. It will only take me 4 semesters. Minimal gen-ed, I think 2 courses, which are set up to take online with this program (ie Spanish, 2 sessions, geared for healthcare) Not all programs are bad or expensive, I am just flabbergasted as to why more people are not utilizing their state universities. ~$100 per credit hour where I am going.

[elpnla]

What state university is that?

[applesxoranges, BSN, RN]

It depends on the university. Honestly, it does. Ohio University was partnered with my school and so all of my credits transferred, even firefighting credits. I only had the nursing classes and English II to do so I should get my BSN within 9 months if everything goes well. When they messed up my nutrition credits, I emailed them and they fixed it.

I have heard other people say that OU is very liberal with transferring credits so it may not just be going to a partnered university.

I tell people to look at what universities the community colleges are partnered with. Not to be negative, but most of the differences between a BSN and an ADN now a days is just the fluff classes. The traditional BSNs had nothing different in terms of classes except for the GECs in my area. However, I will be taking more nursing classes now than a traditional BSN because I am going the RN to BSN route. Still costs about 1/2 of what a usual BSN costs.

UTA didn't impress me. I waited and waited for them to accept me. Then I was accepted conditionally. Didn't stop them from calling me constantly. Ohio University accepted me within a month of applying. Once again though, OU is a partner school from where I graduated from.

[NurseGirl525, ASN, RN]

Every school you mentioned is a for profit school. I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. Also what does it mean when you say that school will give you 35 credits toward your BSN NCLEX. The ADN and BSN take the same test. If you are already licensed as a ADN the only thing a BSN gives you is a higher degree. Was just curious about that. Check into your local universities. Most ADN-BSN programs are 16 mos. from what I have seen. You do need to do your research on it.

[featherzRN, MSN]

WGU is non profit, as is Excelsior. FWIW. My BSN from WGU cost me $3600 (offset then by a tax credit, making it even less). As for the 'credit' - some schools will give you 'credit' for being an RN (in essence, undergrad credit for your RN coursework).

[mmc51264, BSN, MSN, RN]

What state university is that?

from elpna

North Carolina, there are many schools though the university system. UNC-Wilmington, East Carolina, Western Carolina. I don'y know what out of state tuition is, but I would assume all states that have nursing programs have some RN-BSN programs in the state.

[Not_A_Hat_Person, RN]

I am getting my RN-BSN at a state university online program. It will only take me 4 semesters. Minimal gen-ed, I think 2 courses, which are set up to take online with this program (ie Spanish, 2 sessions, geared for healthcare) Not all programs are bad or expensive, I am just flabbergasted as to why more people are not utilizing their state universities. ~$100 per credit hour where I am going.

In my case, it's money. My state U charges $600 per credit in-state, without room and board. It would be cheaper to attend my alma mater (where I got a BA in English) as an out-of-state student. A state college just started an online RN-BSN program that charges $480 per credit in-state.

[elpnla]

These RN-BSN schools are not stupid. They know of the fears that most AD nurses have, and that is that one day these nurses cannot get up after they squat down at work... And they, the schools, capitalize on the fears that nurses have by offering their RN-BSN programs. Just look for yourself, RN-BSN schools and programs are growing like mushrooms.

Beware of colleges and universities.