RN, ADN being obsolete

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I recently got in contact with a nursing school (ASA college) inquired regarding a RN program. i was informed by a counselor that they only offer the BSN being that the RN license is becoming obsolete and will be within the next 2 years. Has any nurses or medical professionals heard about this?

I think I did hear something about nursing licenses becoming federal licenses instead of state where if you move to another state, you don't have to retake the NCLEX in that new state because it doesn't recognize the NCLEX you took from the state you moved from. Makes sense to me because when I finished my nursing pre-reqs, I took a culinary cooking class and they said that you no longer have to take the state version, you can take the federal version which I think is cheaper if not more expensive and its' expiration date is longer than the state version which a lot of cooks and servers, etc are moving towards because of the convenience and they can move to another state with it. It's called Servsafe for culinary. Nothing is official for nursing yet, and I don't know why every state is different. It doesn't make any sense to me.. Also, I believe drivers license's are doing that too, but I think that's a passport thing.

But there are things BSNs have to learn or are legally allowed to do that ADNs can't. I can't remember what they were, but payscale between the two during an interview is also an issue facilities have. I was told that it's the same salary for a BSN than it is for an ADN on top of what BSNs can do that ADNs can't. There's a lot of things I guess ADNs don't know or have to do that BSNs do, but I can't ******* remember what they were, and they were valid reasons as to why ADN is pointless to go with on the side that programs cost the same, BSN being the more attractive option.

I think you win the award today for the most false statements in the fewest number of posts made by a single poster. Congratulations.

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But there are things BSNs have to learn or are legally allowed to do that ADNs can't. I can't remember what they were, but payscale between the two during an interview is also an issue facilities have. I was told that it's the same salary for a BSN than it is for an ADN on top of what BSNs can do that ADNs can't. There's a lot of things I guess ADNs don't know or have to do that BSNs do, but I can't ******* remember what they were, and they were valid reasons as to why ADN is pointless to go with on the side that programs cost the same, BSN being the more attractive option.

Not true. There was nothing in my BSN program that I either didn't already learn about or was at least familiar with from my ADN program. In fact, my ADN program covered nursing research far better than my BSN program did. Of course, I can testify only to the ADN and BSN programs I attended--your mileage may vary. But I'm willing to bet that most other people here would agree with me.

As far as scope of practice, the RN scope of practice is the same for a BSN as for a ADN as for a diploma as for a MSN.

Salaries for BSNs vs ADNs (vs diplomas and MSNs) can vary between facilities. Some offer differentials for staff having higher degrees. Some couldn't care less.

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Holy cow where do you people live? I am a nursing instructor for ADNs. Every single graduate is employed, most (60%) have a job secured before graduation, and they are working in their first choice area (ED, ICU, med surg specialty or clinics.) One of the bigger hospitals does request a BSN within 3 years of hire; but no ADN in the county is unemployed.

3 years post graduation and still no nursing job (working as a hospital CNA) , BSN still looking, works with me at target, cannot get hired anywhere. I could go on with example after example. Northeast PA reached full saturation point 10 years ago, but the schools keep churning out the grads. Biggest hospital system in area 2 year hiring freeze,layoffs galore, no one is getting hired no matter the degree. People are taking unpaid internships just to get their feet in the door. Until the nursing schools are held accountable for saturating the market , we will see wages rolling backwards like they already have until it hits minimum wage.

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3 years post graduation and still no nursing job (working as a hospital CNA) , BSN still looking, works with me at target, cannot get hired anywhere. I could go on with example after example. Northeast PA reached full saturation point 10 years ago, but the schools keep churning out the grads. Biggest hospital system in area 2 year hiring freeze,layoffs galore, no one is getting hired no matter the degree. People are taking unpaid internships just to get their feet in the door. Until the nursing schools are held accountable for saturating the market , we will see wages rolling backwards like they already have until it hits minimum wage.

I get wanting to live in a certain location because of family and such, but with the choice being between retail work or heading out of state for a year or two to get that shiny experience, I don't understand why someone wouldn't move.

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I get wanting to live in a certain location because of family and such, but with the choice being between retail work or heading out of state for a year or two to get that shiny experience, I don't understand why someone wouldn't move.

Exactly! Nursing seems to be one of the few professions where we don't consider that as a necessity.

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I get wanting to live in a certain location because of family and such, but with the choice being between retail work or heading out of state for a year or two to get that shiny experience, I don't understand why someone wouldn't move.

So, for those of you who are waxing poetic about the number of available jobs, I'm definitely open to relocating for a year (or two) but would love some direction on where to even begin to look. Would you be willing to share a few "prime" locations to look in? I'm a freshly graduated AAS with the NCLEX behind me.

I think the Dallas-Fort Worth area might be over-saturated with new grads? I've asked for feedback from several professors about what to changes to make in my resume and cover letter. I have a good GPA, volunteer history, glowing recommendations and have applied to over 50 different positions without so much as a call back for an interview. Yes, I know a few fellow students who have been hired at magnet hospitals, but it turns out they are rare exceptions. I can't even get into a LTC facility without 6 months of RN experience!

I'm already enrolled in online classes to bridge to the ever-coveted BSN, but in the meantime I'd like to get a job lol! Where are these elusive "hot spots" that are hiring associate degree RN's please?

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Small communities in Oregon. Go anywhere 45-60 minutes outside Portland. Look at critical access hospitals. Look at the small regional hospitals.

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So, for those of you who are waxing poetic about the number of available jobs, I'm definitely open to relocating for a year (or two) but would love some direction on where to even begin to look. Would you be willing to share a few "prime" locations to look in? I'm a freshly graduated AAS with the NCLEX behind me.

I think the Dallas-Fort Worth area might be over-saturated with new grads? I've asked for feedback from several professors about what to changes to make in my resume and cover letter. I have a good GPA, volunteer history, glowing recommendations and have applied to over 50 different positions without so much as a call back for an interview. Yes, I know a few fellow students who have been hired at magnet hospitals, but it turns out they are rare exceptions. I can't even get into a LTC facility without 6 months of RN experience!

I'm already enrolled in online classes to bridge to the ever-coveted BSN, but in the meantime I'd like to get a job lol! Where are these elusive "hot spots" that are hiring associate degree RN's please?

Try heading a little north of you into New Mexico.

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I am currently finishing up my ADN. There is plenty of employment opportunities around where I live. Many do want you to at least continue a bridge program for your bachelors. That I will do. But our school gives us many more clinical hours than those offering the BSN program and the employers are liking that. Given a choice and just starting out on any degree I would have gone for my BSN to begin with, but getting in to start was important to me.

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So, for those of you who are waxing poetic about the number of available jobs, I'm definitely open to relocating for a year (or two) but would love some direction on where to even begin to look. Would you be willing to share a few "prime" locations to look in? I'm a freshly graduated AAS with the NCLEX behind me.

I think the Dallas-Fort Worth area might be over-saturated with new grads? I've asked for feedback from several professors about what to changes to make in my resume and cover letter. I have a good GPA, volunteer history, glowing recommendations and have applied to over 50 different positions without so much as a call back for an interview. Yes, I know a few fellow students who have been hired at magnet hospitals, but it turns out they are rare exceptions. I can't even get into a LTC facility without 6 months of RN experience!

I'm already enrolled in online classes to bridge to the ever-coveted BSN, but in the meantime I'd like to get a job lol! Where are these elusive "hot spots" that are hiring associate degree RN's please?

Think rural. Rural New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming. Those are just places around me, but i'm sure many rural areas need nurses. I live in a beautiful mountain town that always needs nurses at the hospital here and in communities nearby. We are several hours from a major airport, but it's worth it to me for the quality of life.

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NO, not at all! An RN is an RN

I been wanting to know the difference between a bsn and adn scope of practice. Is the adn limited in the clinical setting?
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But there are things BSNs have to learn or are legally allowed to do that ADNs can't. I can't remember what they were, but payscale between the two during an interview is also an issue facilities have. I was told that it's the same salary for a BSN than it is for an ADN on top of what BSNs can do that ADNs can't. There's a lot of things I guess ADNs don't know or have to do that BSNs do, but I can't ******* remember what they were, and they were valid reasons as to why ADN is pointless to go with on the side that programs cost the same, BSN being the more attractive option.

Where on Earth are you getting your information from?

I think you need to do a lot of research into the Nursing profession before you even get into a program! Your lack of knowledge is profounding!

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