Published Jan 24, 2014
campus64
2 Posts
Hey everybody....first time poster, long time lurker.
Currently I'm in a tough situation because I have my LPN but I can't find a job ANYWHERE. I've turned in over 100 applications. I think it's because the market in my area is extremely saturated with LPN's (along with my disciplinary problems from the past).
I've decided that I want to pursue my BSN degree. My mind is 100% set on doing this. I've talked to my monitoring agent with the Board of Nursing to put my license on suspension along with my monitoring (drug tests & AA meetings).
I have NOT signed the consent agreement and I was wondering what you guys thought about this. Will putting my license on suspension hurt my chances of finding employment as a RN? I know that once I graduate and get my BSN that I'll have to start from step 1 again with my consent agreement - which I'm fine with. I'm just worried that future potential employees may see that I had a suspended license in the past and hold that against me.
If anybody could give me ANY advice I'd appreciate it.
p.s - I'm starting all over as a freshman. I plan on testing out of my english and math classes or having my credits transfer over. I can't do a LPN-BSN bridge program because they require you to have 1 year experience as a LPN.
caliotter3
38,333 Posts
I don't know lot about this process but it seems that not signing the consent agreement isn't going to help matters.
Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN
20,908 Posts
You should take to lawyer before signing anything.
nowim clean
296 Posts
If it was me and again I state if it was me I would clear up my LPN get through the program then worry about BSN. I know as a RN when I was considering doing my BSN I was going to have to tell the school, anywhere I had clinicals as well as be approved by the BON. It was too much of a hassal so I am putting that on hold until next year when I am free and clean. Please don't think that if you get a BSN your problems of finding a job is over and I would also make sure charges on your LPN would not carry over to your BSN. That would bite to get a BSN and have chargeson you before you even get a job. You have a lot of research to do. good luck
HunnieBadger
178 Posts
I completely agree with now I'm clean, there will be so many more hassles trying to figure out all that mess with the board than not.
You wouldn't be able to do a bridge program either without an active nursing license. This much I know since I was starting back to school right before my world imploded. I had to wait until after I was reinstated to start back. Just my $0.02..
Hunnie
MichelleRN34, ADN, RN
270 Posts
I was kicked out of my bsn program because I had a suspended license .
Oogie
195 Posts
Trouble follows you, why put a blemish on your BSN before you start? Personally I'd complete the monitoring program while working on pre and core requisites. Get all that behind you before you start a BSN program. I wouldn't want that lingering over me for all those years..... Good luck with that....Peace
Sam J.
407 Posts
You should get a lawyer to talk to you, and frankly. From what I read, it appears that you feel the fact that you agreed to have your LPN license suspended (or even if you had agreed to have it revoked to avoid the required consent and disciplnary process) somehow 'makes things better'- but a suspended license is a suspended license. Generally, trouble with any health care license will prevent you from receiving any other type of health care license, and working in certain health care places in any capacity. And of course future employers will know about your LPN trouble- you can be sure that you are already listed on all kinds of state and federal health care provider data bases (the Data Bank is a biggie) as having a disciplinary action, and one that you refused to comply with. If I were you I'd get a lawyer, yes- but maybe one that is also a nurse, to set things straight. Good luck.
akulahawkRN, ADN, RN, EMT-P
3,523 Posts
All that I see in your future is a massive headache. Suspending your license probably won't make the headache go away. The fact that you're in trouble now will follow you anyway. Even though you're looking to start over from square one wouldn't change the fact that you're in some kind of trouble now and you'll still have to disclose to the BRN of your state the reason for the trouble AND the reason your current license got suspended.
My advice is simple: Find a darned good lawyer that's very knowledgeable in these matters and get some very, very good counsel about whether or not you'll be in a better place to suspend, go inactive, or keep your license active while working through all this trouble. The worst possible outcome would be a revocation because of whatever caused you to get into trouble in the first place. I would hate to be the nurse that got into trouble, requested suspension, and ended up having my license revoked because someone there didn't like the idea that I'm trying to get around the monitoring requirement...
So, I'm going to reiterate this one more time: Get a good lawyer!!!
Alright people I appreciate all of the advice and input.
I also want to clarify that I've been in complete compliance with the BON and my probationary terms. I haven't been in any trouble with the board or law. I would be voluntarily suspending my license so that I don't have to continue these terms for the 4 years that I'm in college. The terms are expensive and time consuming, which is something that I can't afford to do while in school.
From the responses I see that I didn't go into my situation in-depth enough. From age 18-21 I got into a bit of trouble (underage consumptions and a DUI). Anyways, when I was 22 years old I decided that I wanted to be a nurse. I enrolled at a community college and got my LPN. I was accepted into the program even though I have a record. All of my charges occurred BEFORE I got my license and enrolled in college. I haven't been in trouble once (not even a speeding ticket) since I've had my LPN. After I graduated, the BON made me see a drug evaluation counselor and he said that I was an alcoholic in remission. Due to this I was required by the BON to sign and follow a consent agreement (this took about 6 months). The terms of the consent agreement were that I can't do home health care, I have to have random drug and alcohol tests, and attend 1 AA meeting per week. I have to do this for one year AFTER being employed. So while I've been looking for a job I have to follow these terms and then I have to continue them for 1 year AFTER I become employed.
The job market right now in my area is extremely saturated with LPN's (I live in Cleveland and there are a lot of Nursing Schools in the area). Friends that I've graduated with that have nothing on their record even had trouble finding a job. Anyways, it's been 1.5 years since I've graduated and I can't find a job for the life of me. I'm fairly sure that the DON sees my disciplinary record and throws my application in the trash. I've tried everywhere remotely close in the area, and I've only been called in for an interview once.
I talked to my monitoring agent and she also told me that the LPN's she's monitoring are having a tough time finding a job as well. I asked her if she thought I would have an easier time finding a job with my BSN and she said absolutely. It also helps that I know people that could at least get me an interview (I know a HR manager at the Cleveland Clinic). My monitoring agent told me that it shouldn't hurt me if I put a temporary suspension on my license and probationary terms. They would obviously follow me once I become a RN...but I honestly don't think the consent agreement is what's hurting me finding a job. It's my record with the law. By the time I graduate with a BSN I'll be 29 years old, and I won't have anything on my record for 8 years. My plan would be to enroll at at a University and work as a PCNA (similar to a STNA) at the Cleveland Clinic (or University Hospitals) and hopefully get hired in as a RN once I graduate. I'm confident that if I got hired as a PCNA while enrolled in college that I could get a job. I'm a competent nurse with references from all of my previous clinical instructors. I have good character and I generally get along with everybody. People like working with me and being around me.
Like I said earlier...I haven't been in trouble in quite awhile (and not while I've ever been licensed by the state) and by the time I graduate it will have been 8 years since I've been in any trouble with the law. I would LOVE to get my probationary terms out of the way before I start going to school to get my BSN...but they don't begin until I am employed as an LPN for 1 year. And I can't find a job as a LPN. I absolutely can't. I've tried everything and everywhere.
Once again, any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
p.s - I plan to start over as a freshman, only testing out of english and math classes. I'm not doing a bridge program because they require you to be employed for 1 year before you begin.
I stand by my earlier statement finish your contract with the lpn first. None of us walked right into a job it took me almost 1 year. I wish you luck but there s noway I can do a bsn while under my contract but those are decisions you have to make and live with. As far as it being easier with a BSN I do not agree with that, it takes time willingness to adapt and a higher power looking out for you. You asked for advice we who have walked this road have given it but we can not force you to take it. You maybe that special one that it works for, but the odds are stacked against you. Finish your contract first.
catmom1, BSN, RN
350 Posts
For what it's worth, I have an unrestricted license (with a history of discipline) and an RN/BSN and I am having a very tough time finding a job where I live. Going for your RN is an expensive gamble that might just leave you in debt and unemployed as well. In my mind, it would be a LOT more fun to go to school than look for work but until someone either pays me to go to school or guarantees me a job after I graduate, I will keep pounding the pavement.
Catmom :paw: