Relocated from NYC to Missouri to be denied a license please help

[Nazarr77]

A NY state issued LPN license as a result of Non completion of an RN program in 2006, with 10years experience.

Relocated from NYC to Missouri to be denied a license to practice Nursing under the technicality non-graduate of a nursing program.

[roser13, ASN, RN]

Not to be rude, but it's not a "technicality." It's the rule of licensure for that state. And frankly, LPNs aren't just defective RNs, and I really wish the option of taking LPN boards if you can't hack the RN program would go away.

Take a look at the first page where I said I was so confused about this situation. Someone answered me & stated that this practice no longer exists because it was felt that unfinished RN students were not, after all, educated in the entire scope of the LPN practice.

[Aunt Slappy]

Take a look at the first page where I said I was so confused about this situation. Someone answered me & stated that this practice no longer exists because it was felt that unfinished RN students were not, after all, educated in the entire scope of the LPN practice.

In my state, it's still allowed. I recently worked with another LPN who became one after taking LPN boards subsequent to flunking 3rd block of her RN program.

[Sour Lemon]

Not to be rude, but it's not a "technicality." It's the rule of licensure for that state. And frankly, LPNs aren't just defective RNs, and I really wish the option of taking LPN boards if you can't hack the RN program would go away.

In California, you can still become an LVN with CNA experience and one pharmacology class. You don't have to attend any program, at all.

[roser13, ASN, RN]

In California, you can still become an LVN with CNA experience and one pharmacology class. You don't have to attend any program, at all.

I wonder if that license is valid outside of CA?

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

Thank you someone who finally gives me something positive I appreciate you respone greatly any ideas as to what other federal agencies specifically besides the VA

Let me google that for you.

You are receiving many responses, whether or not they are "positive" to you is a moot point. Getting hired into any VA position requires MANY hoops.

Perhaps mom needs to do her own research.

If you are not liking the proposed answers here on AN.. get a lawyer, or query the Missouri BON.

[Sour Lemon]

I wonder if that license is valid outside of CA?

Nope ....at least 99.9999% of the time.

[Qing]

I think the problem is that you did not complete the approved the RN program. I think you need to look into your nursing program and also the licensing board to find out how to deal with this.

[DowntheRiver]

In my state, it's still allowed. I recently worked with another LPN who became one after taking LPN boards subsequent to flunking 3rd block of her RN program.

You can still challenge here in Florida as well via PNEQ.

Florida Board of Nursing >> Can I challenge the Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) Examination? - Licensing, Renewals & Information

[Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN]

Thank you someone who finally gives me something positive I appreciate you respone greatly any ideas as to what other federal agencies specifically besides the VA

While the responses are not to your liking...they are truthful. Unfortunately, even though she could still practice as an LPN in New York there allowances they do not transfer to other states. It is a detail that no one tells you until it is too late. Just like some people attended a nursing school approved by their state but it is not nationally accredited...that license will not transfer either.

Texas is a compact state but New York is not. Did your Mom graduate from a nursing school at all?

[DoGoodThenGo]

Leave us go to the source, shall we?

Professional Registration

Division 2200—State Board of Nursing

Chapter 4—General Rules

Quote:

3. Any applicant applying for the practical

nurse licensing examination who is deficient

in theory, clinical experience, or both,

as stated in 20 CSR 2200, Chapter 3—Practical

Nursing, and has not earned a practical

nursing degree or met the requirements for a

comparable period of training as determined

by the board pursuant to 20 CSR 2200-

4.020(1)(B), will not be approved.

Furthermore:

(5) Licensure by Endorsement in Missouri—

Registered Nurses (RNs) and Licensed Practical

Nurses (LPNs).

(A) A professional/practical nurse licensed

in another state or territory of the United

States shall be entitled to licensure provided

qualifications are equivalent to the requirements

of Missouri at the time of original

licensure. This equivalency shall be defined

as—

1. Evidence of completion and graduation

from an accredited program of professional/

practical nursing if educated in a state

of the United States; a course-by-course evaluation

report received directly from a credentials

evaluation service approved by the board

or a Commission on Graduates of Foreign

Nursing Schools (CGFNS) certificate if the

initial nursing education was earned in a territory,

Canada, or another country;

2. Attainment of a passing standard

score or pass designation as determined by

the Missouri State Board of Nursing on the

licensing examination or attainment of an

acceptable grade in areas comparable to those

required in Missouri at the time licensure was

secured in the state of original licensure;

3. Evidence of completion of the applicable

secondary education set forth in section

335.046, RSMo requirements or the equivalent

as determined by the State Department of

Education;

4. Applicants who are not citizens of the

United States who have completed programs

in schools of professional/practical nursing in

states which require citizenship for licensure

may take the National Council Licensure

Examination for professional/practical nurses

in Missouri if they meet all of Missouri's

requirements; and

5. If an individual was licensed by waiver

as a practical/vocational nurse in another

state, territory or foreign country prior to

July 1, 1955, and the individual meets the

requirements for licensure as a practical

nurse in Missouri which were in effect at the

time the individual was licensed in the other

jurisdiction, she/he is eligible for licensure in

Missouri as an LPN. If an individual is

licensed by waiver in another state after July

1, 1955, she/he does not qualify for licensure

by waiver in Missouri as a practical nurse.

End of quote:

OP made a general and rather vague request for assistance. Responses came based upon current situation as things stand on the ground in in Missouri. While not all responses may not have been "helpful" as the OP wished, never the less that is how they were intended and should be accepted as such.

What sort of "help" anyone here can give is really suspect anyway. The Missouri BON made their decision based upon interpretation of current rules and statues. So unless anyone here has some juice with the governor of that state and or can make things happen, the responses given have been fair.

To OP:

States are well within their own prerogatives to decide who is issued a professional license and or under what conditions. Other than a legally binding agreement between states no other can be compelled to accept someone just because they practiced in another.

[roser13, ASN, RN]

Thank you someone who finally gives me something positive I appreciate you respone greatly any ideas as to what other federal agencies specifically besides the VA

Sometimes the truth is not exactly positive or what you hoped to hear. Your mom is in a tough spot and it's no one's fault. It just is what it is. I think you should appreciate all constructive responses, not just the ones who tell you what you want to hear.

[DoGoodThenGo]

Take a look at the first page where I said I was so confused about this situation. Someone answered me & stated that this practice no longer exists because it was felt that unfinished RN students were not, after all, educated in the entire scope of the LPN practice.

That someone would be *Moi*, and here is the full story:

NYS Nursing:Practice Alerts & Guidelines:Phasing out of the Option Permitting Students

The amount of stuff I have archived and or can find via research sometimes frightens me, *LOL* Maybe missed my calling as a librarian or something.