Relocated from NYC to Missouri to be denied a license please help

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A NY state issued LPN license as a result of Non completion of an RN program in 2006, with 10years experience.

Relocated from NYC to Missouri to be denied a license to practice Nursing under the technicality non-graduate of a nursing program.

Not to be rude, but it's not a "technicality." It's the rule of licensure for that state. And frankly, LPNs aren't just defective RNs, and I really wish the option of taking LPN boards if you can't hack the RN program would go away.

Actually New York State offers several pathways to get a LPN license, including graduates of RN programs who want to take the practical nursing boards. NYS Nursing:Practice Alerts & Guidelines:Phasing out of the Option Permitting Students

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A NY state issued LPN license as a result of Non completion of an RN program in 2006, with 10years experience.

Relocated from NYC to Missouri to be denied a license to practice Nursing under the technicality non-graduate of a nursing program.

OP's mother squeaked in one year before NYS changed their laws regarding RN students taking LPN boards (1 June 2007).

Furthermore rationale behind the move was made clear and reflects upon the LPN in question current situation:

"Several factors resulted in the Department's position to phase out this option. Based on a number of patient safety concerns the Department re-examined its policy regarding this issue. Our investigation found that:

  • As a result of curricular changes in registered professional nursing programs, the fourth semester of the program may contain all of the didactic and clinical assignments related to certain content areas such as obstetrical or psychiatric nursing, for example. Students not taking this last semester and licensed as LPNs under the 2-EQ option, therefore, might have little or no contact in these areas. We have concluded that the assumption of substantial equivalence can no longer be supported.
  • Persons licensed as LPNs under this option have had no content on the differentiated scope of practice of LPNs and RNs and therefore do not know how to practice as an LPN.
  • Individuals so licensed are not able to be licensed in other jurisdictions as the requirement in other states is for completion of an LPN program.
  • This option is not available in any of the 47 professions regulated by the Department. "

NYS Nursing:Practice Alerts & Guidelines:Phasing out of the Option Permitting Students

Do not know if OP's mother was made aware of the bolded information at the time or subsequently, but it does settle the matter. We can thus assume even far back as 2006 (or before) LPNs licensed via said waiver in NYS were having issues with other states accepting their credentials.

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Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

I looked at the requirements for a VA job in Missouri & this is what it stated:

  • Education. Graduate of a school of practical or vocational nursing approved by the appropriate State agency and/or accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) at the time the program was completed by the applicant.

I don't know if your mom would be able to apply for any VA jobs since she did not graduate from a school of nursing. She might have to go to school or just do something else.

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I looked at the requirements for a VA job in Missouri & this is what it stated:

  • Education. Graduate of a school of practical or vocational nursing approved by the appropriate State agency and/or accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) at the time the program was completed by the applicant.

I don't know if your mom would be able to apply for any VA jobs since she did not graduate from a school of nursing. She might have to go to school or just do something else.

Interesting that they don't mention licensure.

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Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
Interesting that they don't mention licensure.

It does:

  • Licensure. Full, active, current and unrestricted licensure as a licensed practical or vocational nurse in a State, Territory or Commonwealth (i.e., Puerto Rico) of the United States, or District of Columbia. An LPN/LVN who has or has ever had, any license(s) revoked, suspended, denied, restricted, limited, or issued/placed in a probationary status may be appointed only in accordance with the provisions in VA Policy.

I just figured the education part is what disqualified the OP's mom since the education is a basic requirement.

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Not to be rude, but it's not a "technicality." It's the rule of licensure for that state. And frankly, LPNs aren't just defective RNs, and I really wish the option of taking LPN boards if you can't hack the RN program would go away.

I never even knew it was an option until now. I DEFINITELY didn't feel competent enough to be a LPN after two semesters of nursing school. Hell, I still feel lost half of the time now. 😂

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I looked at the requirements for a VA job in Missouri & this is what it stated:

  • Education. Graduate of a school of practical or vocational nursing approved by the appropriate State agency and/or accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) at the time the program was completed by the applicant.

I don't know if your mom would be able to apply for any VA jobs since she did not graduate from a school of nursing. She might have to go to school or just do something else.

Just to satisfy my curiosity looked at several LVN/LPN to RN programs in Missouri, and there again one must have a license from that state or one that is acceptable in order to enroll.

It does seem the only option open to persons in the OP's mother's situation is to return to school (LVN/LPN or RN), graduate, and pass board exams all over again.

Perhaps the easiest way in this situation would be to have completed a LPN bridge program back in NYS, this and or OP's mom returning to same. Yes, I know she has already moved but at this point it does seem the only state where she is legally a LPN is New York.

Just so show am not Nancy Negative, there *MIGHT* be a solution at hand via Excelsior's online programs.

https://allnurses.com/excelsior-college-online/the-excelsior-college-808335.html

Excelsior College | Excelsior College Nursing Programs

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Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
Just to satisfy my curiosity looked at several LVN/LPN to RN programs in Missouri, and there again one must have a license from that state or one that is acceptable in order to enroll.

It does seem the only option open to persons in the OP's mother's situation is to return to school (LVN/LPN or RN), graduate, and pass board exams all over again.

Perhaps the easiest way in this situation would be to have completed a LPN bridge program back in NYS, this and or OP's mom returning to same. Yes, I know she has already moved but at this point it does seem the only state where she is legally a LPN is New York.

Just so show am not Nancy Negative, there *MIGHT* be a solution at hand via Excelsior's online programs.

https://allnurses.com/excelsior-college-online/the-excelsior-college-808335.html

Excelsior College | Excelsior College Nursing Programs

I think this goes to shows what a bad idea testing out to be an LVN during an RN program is. Even though you think you will never move out of state, you never know what the future holds.

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I think this goes to shows what a bad idea testing out to be an LVN during an RN program is. Even though you think you will never move out of state, you never know what the future holds.

OP's mother was allowed to take the NYS LPN boards based upon "non-completion" of her RN program. We don't know the details, nor for that matter is it anyone's business; but had she graduated from said RN program even today she could still have taken the LPN boards (see link above).

On balance agree with you; a practical nursing license is or should not be a constellation prize for those unable to endure and graduate from a RN program. The practices are totally different and each have their own turf so to speak.

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Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
OP's mother was allowed to take the NYS LPN boards based upon "non-completion" of her RN program. We don't know the details, nor for that matter is it anyone's business; but had she graduated from said RN program even today she could still have taken the LPN boards (see link above).

On balance agree with you; a practical nursing license is or should not be a constellation prize for those unable to endure and graduate from a RN program. The practices are totally different and each have their own turf so to speak.

I know the OP's mother was allowed to take the LVN boards but it just shows that by not going to an actual nursing school for your complete education can hurt you. People don't think it will be a problem until it is a problem.

I completely agree with your second paragraph.

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OP whether you think any of these responses is positive or negative is irrelevant. What matters is that everyone is telling the truth, or at least they are telling you what they know to the best of their knowledge.

Your mother does not qualify for a job with the VA. She did not graduate from an accredited school of nursing. The rest of her application stops right there. She would be asked the date of graduation and prove the specific accredited school when submitting her transcripts. She did not graduate, she is not eligible for federal employment. If she wants a job in Missouri, probably anywhere else, she has one option available, going back to school to complete the degree.

It is unfortunate that the move was made without her knowing this, but it doesn't change the situation in the end. If she wants to work as a LPN outside of York State and she must go to school to get the required certificate of completion from an accredited school. That's really all there is to say, the rest is just chatter. I wish her well.

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