I am a BSN student taking a nursing theory class at the moment. I was wondering what is everybody's opinion regarding expressing religious believes in nursing theories. Does it offend you to find the word "God" when reading about certain theories. Example : "Persons have mutual relationships with the world and God" (Quote from my theory book re works of Sister Callista Roy)
I am Catholic myself so I do not find such statements offensive...I am just wondering what others think on this topic
Soft storms is right. It doesn't matter what we think NOR SHOULD WE EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES LET OUR BELIEFS INTERFERE WITH OUR PATIENTS NOR SHOULD WE VOICE OUR BELIEFS. That is not our job people. And no, a public university should not be teaching about Christian nursing. It is one thing to cover all religion and how it applies to nursing practice, but just teaching one has obvious flaws.
Religion is a personal issue and does not belong in the education system, the work place or any other forum. Once again...it's personal....it should remain that way....keep it to yourself!!!!
religion is a personal issue and does not belong in the education system, the work place or any other forum. once again...it's personal....it should remain that way....keep it to yourself!!!!
actually, it's not personal if its' real--it is the defining characteristic of people of deep faith. doesn't mean its ok to rub everyone's nose in it or expect others to conform and/or agree, but would you also advise a person to keep their national origin, or sexual orientation, or status as a parent or not "out of any forum..keep it to yourself"??? who you are is who you are......
If you look at all of us and our many fields of work.....You would have to agree that we are not in it for the money LOL. Thanks are usually far between and a pat on the back does not come often. So.....it is almost a given that we all have something inside of us that drives us to do what we do! Call it religion, call it spritualty, call it a connection to source. But for some reason we feel the need to do the jobs we do.
So, when the time comes that a pt. needs something and we are not of thier faith? I will go back to the reason I am here/ because my sprituality asks me to care. Not change people, just to care for them
If you look at all of us and our many fields of work.....You would have to agree that we are not in it for the money LOL. Thanks are usually far between and a pat on the back does not come often. So.....it is almost a given that we all have something inside of us that drives us to do what we do! Call it religion, call it spritualty, call it a connection to source. But for some reason we feel the need to do the jobs we do.
So, when the time comes that a pt. needs something and we are not of thier faith? I will go back to the reason I am here/ because my sprituality asks me to care. Not change people, just to care for them
beautifully put, and I am not a monotheist of any kind.
no its just a way of saying I don't believe that the universe is ruled by one single all powerful being. Dictionary.com defines it as "the doctrine or belief that there is only one God." but it basically is a way of including Christianity, Muslim, Judaism, and various flavors of each and others where there is a single "God" figure. Sorry I didn't mean to be complicated. :) I was just trying to be all inclusive. :) Although to get more confusing, I am a "Pantheist" :)
I must confess, to start, that I haven't yet read all 18 pages of this thread.
This post is just my initial reactions to some of the comments I've seen.
First, take it from a hospice nurse ... everybody dies. Therefore, we will all find out, in time, who's right. Therefore, I make it a point never to argue the veracity of anyone's faith or religion, least of all my own.
The political and social ramifications of one religious belief being dominant in a given culture is arguable ... but maybe not in this thread?
The original question was do I find mention of God in nursing theory offensive ... answer, no ... though I'd personally prefer Goddess!
When I see mention of a generic, non-denominational God, I perceive it as referring to spiritual focus. We need this kind of short-hand to talk about the spiritual lives of our patients in general without getting unbearably cumbersome. I haven't yet come up with a better way of talking about it.
Yes, I know that the underlying assumptions of most readers and writers is Christian. As a non-Christian, I deal with it. It's the reality of our society and isn't going to change soon.
Anyone who is a member of a cultural or religious minority has to do this kind of internal translating. It gets old, but it's incurable/endurable and most of the time, I have other things to put my energy into ... like figuring out whether the hallucinations and fear in my traditional Hispano patient would be more effectively eased by haldol or a curandera!
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For it.... in your example. AGAINT IT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS OF ANY KIND!
First, our FOUNDING FATHERS were THESIT.... most were identified as Episopailians, Quakers or Prodistants. Most were Episopalians. The were into Early american utopianism and concerned over FREEDOM FROM RELIGION and Government... as in the KING bing the head of the Church... as in England.
Secondly, Nursing is built upon three principles, unlike Medicine. Medince (except DO's) are system driven, no one system effects others. Nursing is holestic... BODY, MIND AND SPIRIT. You can remove "religion" but have to relize that "spirit" has sto be addressed. Even in Eastern cultures the "CHI" or life force is recognized. No you don't need to offend pts, but spiritaul needs still must be addressed. That is why we ASK it on assesment forms. To many pts, this is very important... just ask a HOSPICE NURSE. It is essential in the care planing of death & dying. So yes, spirituallity is essential in theory in NURSING.
First, our FOUNDING FATHERS were THESIT.... most were identified as Episopailians, Quakers or Prodistants. Most were Episopalians. The were into Early american utopianism and concerned over FREEDOM FROM RELIGION and Government... as in the KING bing the head of the Church... as in England.
Benjamin Franklin
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." [Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758]
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
"He (the Rev. Mr. Whitefield) used, indeed, sometimes to pray for my conversion, but never had the satisfaction of believing that his prayers were heard." [Franklin's Autobiography]
"In the affairs of the world, men are saved, not by faith, but by the want of it."
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Thomas Paine
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of....Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and of my own part, I disbelieve them all." [From The Age of Reason, pp. 89]
"All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." [The Age of Reason]
"It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."
"My own mind is my own church"
Umm... Care to explain those 2 founding fathers????
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Soft storms is right. It doesn't matter what we think NOR SHOULD WE EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES LET OUR BELIEFS INTERFERE WITH OUR PATIENTS NOR SHOULD WE VOICE OUR BELIEFS. That is not our job people. And no, a public university should not be teaching about Christian nursing. It is one thing to cover all religion and how it applies to nursing practice, but just teaching one has obvious flaws.