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Hello everybody,
I am a BSN student taking a nursing theory class at the moment. I was wondering what is everybody's opinion regarding expressing religious believes in nursing theories. Does it offend you to find the word "God" when reading about certain theories. Example : "Persons have mutual relationships with the world and God" (Quote from my theory book re works of Sister Callista Roy)
I am Catholic myself so I do not find such statements offensive...I am just wondering what others think on this topic
Thanks:heartbeat
Benjamin Franklin"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." [Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758]
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
"He (the Rev. Mr. Whitefield) used, indeed, sometimes to pray for my conversion, but never had the satisfaction of believing that his prayers were heard." [Franklin's Autobiography]
"In the affairs of the world, men are saved, not by faith, but by the want of it."
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Thomas Paine
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of....Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and of my own part, I disbelieve them all." [From The Age of Reason, pp. 89]
"All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." [The Age of Reason]
"It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."
"My own mind is my own church"
Umm... Care to explain those 2 founding fathers????
...Or Jefferson, which coined the term "wall of separation" and famously cut out a significant chunk of the Bible he deemed pointless mythology to publish a version containing just the "good parts";
Or Adams who signed the Treaty of Tripoli which states explicitly, "The United States was, in no sense, founded on the Christian religion".
And we could continue.
Yes, many of the founding fathers were Christian. Many were also borne of the Enlightenment and could be described as deists or univeral unitarians, and a significant few would probably self-identify as agnostic today (the term wasn't then yet coined).
i'd be happy to reply.
first a list here:religious affiliation of u.s. presidents * religion
episcopalian
presbyterian
methodist
baptist
unitarian
disciples of chris
no specific denomination
dutch reformed
quaker
congregationalist
catholic
ehovah's witnesses
river brethren
second, an article on james madison who wrote the constitution.
findlaw: u.s. constitution: first amendment: annotations pg. 1 of 21
the us clearly began as a place where people came to flee religious persicution (before it was the us). william penn established much of his view on this.
now on the other hand i have a huge problem with what is happening today in this nation... especially in the bush administration and the justice dept under gonzales and monica goodling. the right wing christians have sought to rule this nation by the bench. since they can not get gay right's flat out banned, not abortion the seek to appoint judges and stack the justice department through a "religious test" and a "political test". i have a huge problem with this.
jefferson's "wall of separation" is to keep government our of the churches business. you are free not to attend any church, you should also be free to obtain any job free of a "religious test" baised on your own beliefs. i do not condem you... in fect i stand for your rights not to believe.... but you must stand for my right to believe! but together we must stand up to a government that entwines the two... religion (pat robertson, liberty university, et al) and right wing republicans pandering to religious conserative that bring this to a dangerous level beyond what thomas jefferson stated... the "wall of separation"! you can believe in any view you want "the flying spagetti monster theroy" is my favorite.... but still our nation was built on the premise that people have freedoms, given to them by "their creator", a jeudo-christian principal based on an abrahamic faith but carefully worded not to allow for a tyranical government like what they faced in england.
i fight conservatives too that say this nation is "christian"... it is not. it's deist founders thought carefully about it and thier view of a god and your right not to be persicuted by religion or government.
that's my rant.
heron, ASN, RN
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FYI - no-one prays to Mohammad