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Hi, I am a new nurse who graduated in May. I graduated with honors (this was not easy, I had to work for it) and did well in clinicals. I have been working day shift on a cardiac step down unit since July. I truly love nursing...I am just not sure I love where I am at. I feel like I am being run over but when I mention something casually to other nurses all I hear is "this is day shift" or "it is what it is" or my favorite "Management doesn't care". I also fear some of these feelings may be because I went to school and did clinicals in a large city with a very up to date hospital who treated their employees excellent. It was a CHI and magnet facility. Now, I know most may say well, go somewhere else, however, I live in a rural area with only two hospitals where everyone knows everyone so word of mouth travels faster than the speed of light around here. I am just unsure if this is what nursing is really about, will it get easier, or am I being taken advantage of as a new nurse???

I started working in July with a preceptor. First issue, I was told I would get 12 weeks of training. Immediately, management started balking until I went to higher management and demanded my full training. This didn't set well with me. Second issue, I was told I would have one dedicated preceptor...the forth day of having someone different I balked again and demanded what I was told. Another flag. From there things did seem to improve but were always hectic. However, I must mention that the hospital says they are a cardiac step down unit but will not make that official because they do not want to lower nurse to patient ratios. We also are a catch all floor as well. Basically, everyone on our floor is not sick enough for the unit but too sick for a med surg floor. It is standard, every day, without fail, I have at least 6 patients if not 8!! WHAT!?!?! This is insane. I had one patient the other day on Cdiff precautions, had a rectal tube, chest tube, stage four pressure ulcer, suprapubic catheter, peg tube, tube feeding, as well as non speaking and confused, who went to dialysis 3 days a week, plus 6 other patients just as complicated. It is nothing for each patient to have 10 to 20 meds due at nine am, 3x a day dressing changes, etc. We as nurses here are also responsible for getting our on blood sugars and passing those food trays!!! EVERYONE is a blood sugar check!!! These are all scheduled for 11 am...but they will schedule my lunch at 11 am and then get mad because I'm late going to my scheduled lunch. It is not uncommon for them to give me four patients who know they are being discharged at 6am and then give me 4 direct admits back to back who all have to have UA's, IV's, Cultures, etc and all of their information enter!! Again, when I complain I am told to "buck up" or "this is the big leagues" or some other smart comment that just completely defeats me. At this point I am ready to quit! This is so overwhelming to me. I get to work early, write down my meds, my labs, etc and none of this helps with me with my time management. I try to delegate to my CNA's but there is absolutely no team work. They are always busy or will ask you very rudely, "Wasn't you just in there, why didn't you do it!" And telling management is a joke. For instance the other day I had a patient who didn't receive her 11 oclock tray because I had an emergency in another room. With 7 other nurses and four techs and two secretaries not one person took her the food tray! When I asked two hours later why this patient wasn't taken a tray, I was told "she's not our patient!" Financially, I can't quit, I have to work but I hate this..I dread work every time I'm scheduled. Because I know it's going to be hell. Hoping for some insight.

Specializes in Cath/EP lab, CCU, Cardiac stepdown.

Honestly it comes down to either suck it up and motor through or to quit and look for employment elsewhere. That's the blunt and sad truth. If you think you can find a job in another facility I would do it. But if you don't think you can, then you might need to bunker down and hold on till you get your golden 1 year acute experience.

Specializes in Hospice.

How many beds are on your unit? If you have at least 6 patients assigned to you and there are 7 other nurses that would be almost a 50 bed unit!

I know you didn't like hearing it the first time, but "It is what it is." Unless you can get other nurses to speak out, nothing will change. Do you have a shared governance committee?

Have you looked into transferring units? If all the units are the same, you may want to look elsewhere for employment.

Congratulations on graduating with honors, however, your GPA does not reflect how well you can actually perform as a nurse or that you are a team player. Do you compare your previous hospital to this hospital when talking to your co-workers? We recently had a nurse do this ALL the time. I finally got fed up with it and told her we were not Hospital A and that maybe she should take her concerns to Leadership

Specializes in Heme Onc.

I'd quit that **** immediately. "It is what it is..." until it isn't. 6-8 patients on day shift in acute care is dangerous. As another poster stated, those ratios with that acquit is NOT something that you can expect everywhere... and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. There really are greener pastures, although you might need a drone to find them.

Nursing isn't for the faint of heart, for sure.

The working conditions you describe don't sound out of the realm of normal reality. The one thing that stands out, though, is the lack of teamwork. It's one thing to be overwhelmed with too much to do and too little time to do it, but when you have a good team, you can work together and help each other out. When you don't have a cohesive team mentality, then things can seem more dismal.

One thing I dislike is the "not my patient" mentality. Something you could try is, whenever (if ever) you feel caught up, or have a less demanding assignment, offer to help others out by doing little things for them, such as answering their call lights, delivering meal trays, etc. Set an example of being a team player. Never say "That's not my patient". Instead, say something like "Suzy is assigned to that patient, but is there something I can help with?". Some will respond to this and you'll figure out which co-workers you can rely on to jump in and help, and cultivate those relationships as much as you can.

I disagree. It's out of the realm of reality that I've ever encountered, and while I'm not a 20 year veteran, this isn't my first go-around either. The working conditions the OP describes, if that's what's actually happening, are a giant pile of bull ****

I disagree. It's out of the realm of reality that I've ever encountered, and while I'm not a 20 year veteran, this isn't my first go-around either. The working conditions the OP describes, if that's what's actually happening, are a giant pile of bull ****.

Well, you're fortunate then.

Specializes in Critical care.

Maybe pick up a per diem position, at the other hospital that you mentioned was in the area, and test the waters there. I remember one of the first jobs I had as a new grad was an inpatient renal unit, no aide, and on nights the unit was divided into two sections, one with 20 patients, the other with 10 ... we really loved the nights we got the 10 patient side. All renal patients, all on accuchecks, 4/5 had some type of stump dressing, some were on 2 hourly PD .... ya I hated that job, but it sure as hell taught me how to prioritize. One time we came in and all the previous shifts pt meds were still in the med trays ... ya rough shift. When I look back, I should have quit that job, wasn't worth risking a job/license over. Oh well, live and learn.

Cheers

Well, you're fortunate then.

I've had a lot of jobs and worked in a lot of crappy facilities - 6-8 patients with that amount of lines and tubes hasn't been acceptable in even the crappiest of them.

Specializes in Med-Surg.

My hospitals cardiac step down ratio is 1:3. General med surg is 1:4-5 for days and 1:5-6 nights. I could not imagine the ratio you work with for true cardiac step down patients. On my med surg floor we often get higher acuity patients that could go to intermediate care but that unit is always full so they stay with us. If it weren't for the fantastic teamwork we have on night shift, I would break down in tears once a week. My coworkers are amazing and we all help each other.

Without that supportive environment/teamwork, and your crazy ratios, I wouldn't cut it at your job. Is looking for a new job a possibility for you? What about a transfer to a different unit? Even different units in a hospital make a huge difference. I know a few I would never want to work in mine.

I hope it works out for you.

Yes, this is the real world. NO, your coworkers should not be so snarky. Unless it is in response to a certain personality you have that is really rubbing them the wrong way. They may be more supportive of you as a new grad thrown to the wolves if they, well...liked you. But if they talk to EVERYONE that way....that's them.

Time for self reflection. Is it your personality rubbing them the wrong way, making them not want to be as supportive as they humanly can given their own load?

I'm all about telling new grads, "This is normal. It IS overwhelming. Keep at it, and you will get there."

BUT, If there was something seriously setting off alarms with me with a new grad, yeah. I might be inclined to say, "Suck it up butter cup. We've all done it."

It's all about their attitude as to how I will respond to them.

Wow! Sounds like a dangerous situation, and with no teamwork to help, that's an awful lot of stress. Nursing is not easy, and having no teamwork makes it worse. If a switch to a different unit is possible, perhaps that may help as even though the job is typically stressful no matter what unit, having teamwork, friendships, and bonds can make all the difference. Sorry you're going through that. Wish I could offer better words of wisdom, but time does make it easier for the new grad, provided there is teamwork of course. I had multiple preceptors at the start of my career, but found it was a benefit as I learned each one had great tips and tricks to offer, IMHO. You'll get there, just takes some time :)

Flossy, This is the norm at many, many institutions! First of all, you can be a team player, but you can't make everyone else be a team player. You can try, but that may not be totally successful. As for shortening orientation, this is common practice in many short staffed institutions. If your management discovers an orientee is particularly well-prepared and a self-starter, it is economically in their best interest to get said orientee out on the floor working independently ASAP. It isn't in the orientee's best interest, but that isn't their prime concern. I hate that you have been subjected to so many of the negatives of hospital nursing so early in your career!! I can honestly say that everything you mentioned has happened to me at one time or another over the last 20 years. Even the comments you quote have been said to me word for word, both by co-workers, CNAs, and management. As you state, my experiences all happened in a facility that was pretty much the "only game in town" since we serve as a regional health care institution for a very large rural area, and moving wasn't a possibility for me either. I guess all this just serves to validate what you have experienced. I don't have a fix for it. I wish I did! Over the last 20 years I have left work in tears many times. The flip side is that if you can stick it out, you will have at least as many rewarding and worthwhile experiences too. If I had more than ten years until retirement I'd probably be looking for a way out (i.e.: traveling, hospice, home health, etc. ) or go back to school to get an advanced degree. I guess my best advice would be to do your best as you explore what possible options you have and what the necessary time-frame would be to make changes. Just random thoughts......Could you eventually go back to school? Does your facility happen to have tuition reimbursement? Would it be possible to commute to a near-by town? (I know that is a time-suck, especially if you have little ones!) Can you tolerate it long enough to to get some experience on your resume, then look at transferring to another unit? Sadly, it isn't just you that suffers in this scenario.....the patients are the real losers!!!

Specializes in Pediatric Critical Care.

Are you being unfairly taken advantage of as a new nurse? Probably not. No, those ratios aren't right and you should receive adequate training, but I bet you that everyone is in the same boat as you are and that probably is contributing to the bad attitudes and lack of teamwork. You probably aren't being singled out and treated unfairly just because you are new - its just a crappy place to work.

While I agree with you advocating for yourself receiving an adequate orientation period, I would probably be less insistent of having the same preceptor the entire time. Yes it is probably more ideal, but your hospital definitely doesn't sound like a perfect world and sometimes "ideal" isn't gonna happen.

As others have said, I suggest that you keep your head down, refrain from talking to other staff about how much better the places that you did clinicals were, and do your best not to be a complainer. At least for a while until you aren't the new kid on the block. Later, perhaps you can be a voice of change but when that time comes make sure that you are using your voice to help find solutions, not just to be a complainer.

Good luck. Without moving you seem to have limited options. Hopefully you can find a way to improve your working situation somehow.

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