"under the table"

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Hello everyone I have a question here which i am concerned about:

I recently graduated from Nursing, RPN. I landed a job last week which is amazing and am very excited to start. But im curious about this:

this is a walkin clinic/ doctors office. during the interview the Doctor said that this is a part-time job and that he can pay me "under the table" for $17 an hour or $20 an hour with the taxes deducted...

Has anyone been in this situation?

I want to keep this job until i find a steady Full-time job with better pay.

Please share your thoughts, and experiences. I am new in this field and have a lot to learn...

Thank you.

Natalie

Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
anyways, i e-mailed the guy told him how i felt and his response basically was that he thinks there was a misunderstanding or a miscommunication and that he has decided that he does not want to hire a nurse at the time....

Wow, what a shady character. He must have assumed that a new nurse wouldn't smell anything fishy about the situation.

Trust us all, you're better off without that particular experience on your resume, but I am sorry that you got your hopes up for a job.

actually in the us the irs has rules about this, an employer cannot just declare you a contract worker and issue you a 1099. they can get in trouble if they misclassify you...

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html

you are right. i worked as a contract employee for a number of years, received 1099's and paid all my own taxes. in 1991,my employer was audited by the irs. it took them three years to complete their audit but i was reclassified as an employee. my employer had to pay a fine and all the back fdic taxes they had skated on. as for the op, don't accept the postition. he is not doing you any favors by 'teaching' you various procedures. he is using you, for his own benefit.

grannyrn65

glad to see that you aren't going to work there! After working so hard in nursing school, I would always be suspicious of something that looked shady...at least this way, you still have your license!

One more vote for you dodged a bullet. This situation sounded fishy, and I would be very concerned about getting involved with anyone whose ethics I questioned. Sooner or later it will bite you in the butt.

Best of luck in finding a better position.

Specializes in acute care med/surg, LTC, orthopedics.
I don't see how the "under the table" is automatically a tax cheater. Not sure about Canada but it's possible for employees to pay their own taxes in certain circumstances in the US. I would prefer to have them take out taxes though, as paying quarterly etc you have to be very disciplined about budgeting.

This is correct, as along as all earnings are declared to Revenue Canada so they can take their chunk.

Specializes in MPH Student Fall/14, Emergency, Research.

JMO, but the wording is what indicated to me that the physician was suggesting an illegal arrangement. "Under the table" is not what I'd expect to hear from an employer who simply meant I'd have to file my own earnings. Generally that means they have no intention of declaring you an employee when they file THEIR taxes.

Which could also potentially screw you when trying to apply for credit, etc.

Glad he 'misunderstood' you, OP. Much better opportunities await :)

Don't talk to him about his willingness to work legitimately. GET OUT!! You don't want to have your reputation tarnished by working with/for this guy. Don't compromise what you have worked so hard for already.

Good luck to you in finding a job! I'm SO glad you spoke up! Other opportunities will come your way, I'm sure. You worked way too hard to get where you're at today. Don't let anyone take that away.

Best wishes!

Specializes in Peds Medical Floor.
Wow, what a shady character. He must have assumed that a new nurse wouldn't smell anything fishy about the situation.

I was thinking the same thing. How coincidental. (Sarcasm.) I think this is definitely for the better.

Specializes in acute care med/surg, LTC, orthopedics.
JMO, but the wording is what indicated to me that the physician was suggesting an illegal arrangement. "Under the table" is not what I'd expect to hear from an employer who simply meant I'd have to file my own earnings. Generally that means they have no intention of declaring you an employee when they file THEIR taxes.

Which could also potentially screw you when trying to apply for credit, etc.

Glad he 'misunderstood' you, OP. Much better opportunities await :)

Good point.

Natalia, there are decent jobs out there where you won't have to question its legitimacy - hold out for one of those, I doubt you will be sorry.

Specializes in Med-Surg/Peds/O.R./Legal/cardiology.

a "misunderstanding" huh??? What BS! Glad you found out about this character before you started!:devil:

Specializes in Health Information Management.

I'm sorry you got your hopes up, and I know how frustrated you must be - trying to find a job in a lousy job market and thinking you had something good finally happening, only to have things turn out like this. Nevertheless, I agree that you escaped a dangerous situation in this instance. I wish you the very best of luck in your job search. As my grandmother used to say, "Keep on pluggin'!" :)

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