Quarantined Nurse’s Scorching Anti-CDC Rant Goes Viral

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National Nurses Union President Deborah Burger released a scathing statement from a quarantined nurse criticizing the CDC for its purported refusal to test her for coronavirus even though she had been exposed to the pathogen.

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Quarantined Nurse's Scorching Anti-CDC Rant Goes Viral: 'I'm Appalled at the Level of Bureaucracy' on Coronavirus Testing

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On 3/12/2020 at 7:29 AM, NurseBlaq said:

So you don't think he should have taken action sooner? He's lied for weeks about the severity of coronavirus, even going so far as to call it a hoax. Travel to countries that were affected should have been banned weeks ago. He wanted to build a wall to keep Mexicans out (completely bigoted) but there's a virus on the loose killing people and he's perfectly fine with them coming and going.

It was a pandemic before Trump decided to say it today or WHO declared it. It was already on just about every continent and in several countries with thousands dead. Anybody following coronavirus news, especially in the medical field, knew this.

I don't know who criticized the travel ban to China as racist but this isn't about politics right now. Trump is incompetent and this wouldn't be a thing had he not fired all the people who would have contained this virus from the beginning. He's more worried about money than people actually being sick and dying.

This is the same idiot who just last week claimed there were only 15 cases in the country and now there are thousands and 10+ deaths. Even worse he put Pence in charge of this virus. He's not only nonmedical, his ignorance of medicine caused an HIV outbreak in his home state.

I didn't think any of this needed to be explained because it has been stated umpteen thousand times since the coronavirus became a main topic of discussion. There's many more points I just don't feel like going into them. Some of y'all want to politicize this topic when it's solid fact that this administration has failed the country and continue to do so with ignorance, arrogance, and political bullswanky!

Your hatred of the president is obvious and I'm not going to address your whole diatribe. Because it really doesn't matter to me.

But I'm not going to let this one slide: he did not call the Wuhan virus a hoax. "Hoax" referred to the latest accusations against him. I saw the footage. The MSM twisted that and they all ran with the narrative that he called the virus a hoax. Didn't happen.

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On 3/12/2020 at 7:29 AM, NurseBlaq said:

So you don't think he should have taken action sooner? He's lied for weeks about the severity of coronavirus, even going so far as to call it a hoax. Travel to countries that were affected should have been banned weeks ago. He wanted to build a wall to keep Mexicans out (completely bigoted) but there's a virus on the loose killing people and he's perfectly fine with them coming and going.

It was a pandemic before Trump decided to say it today or WHO declared it. It was already on just about every continent and in several countries with thousands dead. Anybody following coronavirus news, especially in the medical field, knew this.

I don't know who criticized the travel ban to China as racist but this isn't about politics right now. Trump is incompetent and this wouldn't be a thing had he not fired all the people who would have contained this virus from the beginning. He's more worried about money than people actually being sick and dying.

This is the same idiot who just last week claimed there were only 15 cases in the country and now there are thousands and 10+ deaths. Even worse he put Pence in charge of this virus. He's not only nonmedical, his ignorance of medicine caused an HIV outbreak in his home state.

I didn't think any of this needed to be explained because it has been stated umpteen thousand times since the coronavirus became a main topic of discussion. There's many more points I just don't feel like going into them. Some of y'all want to politicize this topic when it's solid fact that this administration has failed the country and continue to do so with ignorance, arrogance, and political bullswanky!

If Trump had called it a pandemic prior to it being official there would have been backlash, they would have continued the racist rant and called it irresponsible, just like (they wrongly claim) limiting travel from China and now Europe is racist. There are implications to calling it an pandemic and waiting until that was official was the right thing to do, and that doesnt mean that the Trump admin hasn't been doing anything regarding the spread/control of the virus, it is NOT "solid fact" that Trump has failed the country, only the opinion of some.

The worst thing Trump's opponents and the media can do is to politicize the virus instead of working together. You would think just this once they could work for the people instead of themselves.

And just one more thought. It is well known that there is always a problem getting things done in the government (ie bureaucracy), maybe not such a good idea to give the Gov any more control and power in the healthcare realm (ie medicare for all etc)

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3 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

Your hatred of the president is obvious and I'm not going to address your whole diatribe. Because it really doesn't matter to me.

But I'm not going to let this one slide: he did not call the Wuhan virus a hoax. "Hoax" referred to the latest accusations against him. I saw the footage. The MSM twisted that and they all ran with the narrative that he called the virus a hoax. Didn't happen.

I dislike the current president intensely, but agree that twisting things around by implying he called C-19 a hoax, if in fact he did not, is very unhelpful to everyone, and falls within the realm of "alternative facts." Let's not have two play at that game.

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On 3/10/2020 at 11:16 AM, Nurse SMS said:

I would have agreed with you once upon a time. Then I had to work with them when Ebola arrived at my hospital.

The DCD did not have up to date Ebola guidelines until a hospital nurse became infected after caring for a patient. He had been to the ER, sent home, and returned after becoming very ill. The CDC guidelines did not include the need for personnel caring for an Ebola patient to ensure no skin in exposed to any part of the patient.

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Ebola: CDC Guidelines for Healthcare Workers

In October 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued revised guidelines for the protective equipment to be worn by healthcare workers taking care of patients with Ebola.

Why were these new guidelines issued? Since Ebola has been rarely transmitted in the U.S., the healthcare community needs to get up-to-speed on the disease, how it’s transmitted and what they can do to protect themselves when treating Ebola patients...

https://www.sharecare.com/health/ebola-virus/article/CDC-guidelines-for-treating-Ebola-virus-patients

On October 3, 2014 National Nurses United sent a copy of their survey to the CDC:

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National Nurse Survey Shows Hospitals Still Not Prepared for U.S. Ebola Patients October 03, 2014

https://www.nationalnursesunited.org/press/national-nurse-survey-shows-hospitals-still-not-prepared-us-ebola-patients

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Health worker who treated Dallas patient tests positive for Ebola

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-worker-who-treated-dallas-patient-tests-positive-for-ebola/2014/10/12/c0bf9f2c-5244-11e4-ba4b-f6333e2c0453_story.html

The next day this was published:

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Nurses to CDC: Wrong. US Hospitals Not Prepared for Ebola 87 percent say their hospital has not provided education on Ebola

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/10/04/nurses-cdc-wrong-us-hospitals-not-prepared-ebola

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On 3/12/2020 at 3:08 PM, TriciaJ said:

Your hatred of the president is obvious and I'm not going to address your whole diatribe. Because it really doesn't matter to me.

But I'm not going to let this one slide: he did not call the Wuhan virus a hoax. "Hoax" referred to the latest accusations against him. I saw the footage. The MSM twisted that and they all ran with the narrative that he called the virus a hoax. Didn't happen.

On 3/12/2020 at 6:46 PM, NormaSaline said:

I dislike the current president intensely, but agree that twisting things around by implying he called C-19 a hoax, if in fact he did not, is very unhelpful to everyone, and falls within the realm of "alternative facts." Let's not have two play at that game.

I agree with both of your criticisms of over-the-top anti-Trumpism, as much as I disagree with his policies and general demeaner, I think it's counter productive to jump to unjustified interpretations of what he says just because it fits your narrative that's he's bad.

This is why my first assumption of what he was referring to by the coronavirus "hoax" were accusations that it's fault COVID-19 exists (even though I'm not sure such accusations were actually made). As he clarified his comments though it became more clear that the "hoax" he was referring to were criticisms that were actually correct.

His reference to a "hoax" had two main components; that COVID-19 is more dangerous than other common illnesses like the flu, including his chief of staff and DHS director claiming that the mortality rates were similar. The other being that our slow response in testing was somehow at least partly his fault, although this is also clearly true as this was largely the result of no longer having an epidemic response office within the CDC, which is because he shuttered it.

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On 3/12/2020 at 4:15 PM, Daisy4RN said:

If Trump had called it a pandemic prior to it being official there would have been backlash, they would have continued the racist rant and called it irresponsible, just like (they wrongly claim) limiting travel from China and now Europe is racist. There are implications to calling it an pandemic and waiting until that was official was the right thing to do, and that doesnt mean that the Trump admin hasn't been doing anything regarding the spread/control of the virus, it is NOT "solid fact" that Trump has failed the country, only the opinion of some.

The worst thing Trump's opponents and the media can do is to politicize the virus instead of working together. You would think just this once they could work for the people instead of themselves.

And just one more thought. It is well known that there is always a problem getting things done in the government (ie bureaucracy), maybe not such a good idea to give the Gov any more control and power in the healthcare realm (ie medicare for all etc)

I don't think it changes the trajectory of the epidemic much, if at all, but the one common factor in all of Trump's mishandling of this is he's more concerned about how this impacts him than others, and has prioritized the need to protect and advocate for himself over the need to protect and advocate for the public at large.

On 3/12/2020 at 4:15 PM, Daisy4RN said:

And just one more thought. It is well known that there is always a problem getting things done in the government (ie bureaucracy), maybe not such a good idea to give the Gov any more control and power in the healthcare realm (ie medicare for all etc)

Our response, which at this stage primarily consists of the ability to identify those with illness (testing) is many weeks behind that of every other industrialized county is not behind because of government involvement, it's clearly the lack of it. Even the CDC director has admitted to this.

Trump shuttered the government office responsible for quickly responding to emerging pandemics, it's that office that would otherwise initiate the rapid development of testing capabilities. Other countries whose "bureaucracies" were responsible for this task are weeks ahead of us, so that doesn't seem to support your argument that this is a slower process when it's left to the government.

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5 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

Your hatred of the president is obvious and I'm not going to address your whole diatribe. Because it really doesn't matter to me.

But I'm not going to let this one slide: he did not call the Wuhan virus a hoax. "Hoax" referred to the latest accusations against him. I saw the footage. The MSM twisted that and they all ran with the narrative that he called the virus a hoax. Didn't happen.

As I said, he called it a hoax. As I also said, y'all want to politicize this but people are literally sick and dying. I don't subscribe to any party, I subscribe to truth, facts, and common decency. You skipped a whole post which answered your original question only to come back with political nonsense.

Now on to the facts: He indeed called it a hoax and played it down, and continuously did so with ease. He and certain media pundits and his supporters parroted that ignorance.

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"The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new hoax."

https://www.businessinsider.com/five-times-the-trump-administration-downplayed-the-coronavirus-2020-3#their-new-hoax-1

If you don't want an actual conversation, don't ask for one. I said what I said, you asked for a conversation, I answered and explained my POV and you politicized it without disputing anything except whether he called it a hoax or not. He did, see quote, Youtube videos in the link, etc. The bottom line is he fired the people whose job it was to handle these matters and never replaced them. The point is people are sick and dying and the virus has gotten out of control due to his inaction. Those are the facts and they would apply no matter whom was in office because I would be trashing them too..

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1 hour ago, NormaSaline said:

I dislike the current president intensely, but agree that twisting things around by implying he called C-19 a hoax, if in fact he did not, is very unhelpful to everyone, and falls within the realm of "alternative facts." Let's not have two play at that game.

But he did claiming Democrats just wanted to cause a problem. And he also said it was just like the flu and continuously downplayed the severity of it and the number of people affected.

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"The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new hoax."

https://www.businessinsider.com/five-times-the-trump-administration-downplayed-the-coronavirus-2020-3#their-new-hoax-1

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On 3/12/2020 at 4:15 PM, Daisy4RN said:

If Trump had called it a pandemic prior to it being official there would have been backlash, they would have continued the racist rant and called it irresponsible, just like (they wrongly claim) limiting travel from China and now Europe is racist. There are implications to calling it an pandemic and waiting until that was official was the right thing to do, and that doesnt mean that the Trump admin hasn't been doing anything regarding the spread/control of the virus, it is NOT "solid fact" that Trump has failed the country, only the opinion of some.

The worst thing Trump's opponents and the media can do is to politicize the virus instead of working together. You would think just this once they could work for the people instead of themselves.

And just one more thought. It is well known that there is always a problem getting things done in the government (ie bureaucracy), maybe not such a good idea to give the Gov any more control and power in the healthcare realm (ie medicare for all etc)

You're arguing for Trump because you are a supporter. I'm arguing against him and his actions because they were self serving and created chaos from a situation that could have had a better outcome. Y'all playing semantics and whataboutism but ignoring the truths. Stop personalizing criticism of Trump and use common decency and recognize when things are out of control. What's so hard about that? Explain why he fired entire departments that would have handled many of the issues plaguing the country today, including the coronavirus? Instead of addressing that y'all engage in distractions and rabbit holes. This is exactly why we're where we are today as a society. I don't do cliquey behavior and party lines and never have, I'm definitely not starting now. Call it what you want but speak in facts or I'm not listening. I'm tired of folks fighting about politics while everything burns down. Stop it.

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Nurse Blaq, I prefaced my comment with "if he did," and probably, honestly, I should not have commented at all, so very very little do I care for and pay attention to this person in the WH right now. Of COURSE, it's important what he says and does, but as an RN, I cannot get caught up in the strands of different arguments because while I am sorry to say I detest the man, at the same time I do not think that the ENTIRE reason we are in the situation we are in is him. Not entirely. The bottom line thing of it for me is, the fundamental question is in our medical system (which includes in large measure clinics and hospitals), how much capacity do we have?

Unfortunately the answer is not very much. Is the person in the WH entirely responsible for that? No.

Could he be freeing up information and resources in a more timely way, a way that could mitigate this thing? Yes.

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1 minute ago, NormaSaline said:

Nurse Blaq, I prefaced my comment with "if he did," and probably, honestly, I should not have commented at all, so very very little do I care for and pay attention to this person in the WH right now. Of COURSE, it's important what he says and does, but as an RN, I cannot get caught up in the strands of different arguments because while I am sorry to say I detest the man, at the same time I do not think that the ENTIRE reason we are in the situation we are in is him. Not entirely. The bottom line thing of it for me is, the fundamental question is in our medical system (which includes in large measure clinics and hospitals), how much capacity do we have?

Unfortunately the answer is not very much. Is the person in the WH entirely responsible for that? No.

Could he be freeing up information and resources in a more timely way, a way that could mitigate this thing? Yes.

But who said he was ENTIRELY responsible? You keep saying that when it was never said, especially by me. My point is he's responsible for the chaos that has resulted from his inaction. I also don't think anyone, even those I disagree with, are not worried about our medical system.

And yes you said "if" and I provided proof he did. Why so snarky?

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Just now, NurseBlaq said:

But who said he was ENTIRELY responsible? You keep saying that when it was never said, especially by me. My point is he's responsible for the chaos that has resulted from his inaction. I also don't think anyone, even those I disagree with, are not worried about our medical system.

And yes you said "if" and I provided proof he did. Why so snarky?

Not snarky (IMO) just maybe not as invested in this as you would like in putting finishing touches on something you feel passionately about. I agree with you that he has lagged a lot, and that's been costly. Maybe I'll stop there. No snark ever intended.

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