Good grief. America's Frontline Doctors, a group of quacks who claim to know more than actual experts are pushing the use of ineffective parasite med to prevent and or treat COVID.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ivermectin-demand-drives-trump-telemedicine-website-rcna1791
On a personal note, my hubby works for a farm store and has overheard customers explaining to each other how to dose animal wormer for people. This is in a community that is anti-mask, anti-vaccine, let's just all get infected. Up until, you know, they need hospitalization .
On 8/28/2021 at 3:03 PM, SmilingBluEyes said:I don't get WHY anyone would use a NON FDA approved horse medication to treat active disease rather than prevent it with a NOW FDA APPROVED vaccine. Seems like quackery to me! Isn't FDA approval what all the anti-vax crowd are concerned about?
Oops my bad. Of course not. The goal posts have moved!
I don’t get why you don’t think ivermectin is not FDA approved. Unplug from the MSM and read. Ivermectin is an antiparacidic, we use for scabies in humans. It has an excellent safety record, more than I can say about the “vaccine”, most of which are not FDA approved and zero safety record. Side effects are still being recorded.
3 minutes ago, nursetim said:I don’t get why you don’t think ivermectin is not FDA approved. Unplug from the MSM and read. Ivermectin is an antiparacidic, we use for scabies in humans. It has an excellent safety record, more than I can say about the “vaccine”, most of which are not FDA approved and zero safety record. Side effects are still being recorded.
Because the news media made it all about the horse warmer and stated that Fox News was pushing it, knowing full well they were talking about the one you are talking about. I even saw Seth Myers making a comment last week about Fox News pushing the horse de warmer. Unfortunately,, a lot of people believe that crap and then go by the horse de warmer without looking it up to make sure their news is correct.
9 minutes ago, nursetim said:I don’t get why you don’t think ivermectin is not FDA approved. Unplug from the MSM and read. Ivermectin is an antiparacidic, we use for scabies in humans. It has an excellent safety record, more than I can say about the “vaccine”, most of which are not FDA approved and zero safety record. Side effects are still being recorded.
And yes, before any one comments about we are ready know the side effects. Every COVID 19 vaccine in the US still states on the fact sheet under long term side effects: They are unknown because clinical trials are still ongoing. That is straight from the makers of the vaccine. Not CDC not FDA not the white house. That is were I get my I information from the source.
On 8/28/2021 at 7:26 PM, toomuchbaloney said:No kidding.
The issue isn't whether the drug has value. The issue is antivaxxers treating themselves with veterinary medicine based upon dosing guidelines from social media accounts.
Your statement that you've been infected twice in 18 months or so suggests that natural immunity isn't long term. Previously infected individuals are encouraged to vaccinate.
You do realize that animals are given the same medications as humans sometimes, right?
There is an actual smear campaign going on about ivermectin as there was for hydroxychloroquine. Outside the US they are used with good effect, but the fda run by former and future big pharmaceutical executives have stifled, with the assistance of the mass media, to vilify legitimate treatments. You can check this out for yourselves, if there is a treatment, then the “vaccines” lose their Emergency Use Authorization. That is a lot of money lost if that happens, too big to fail sound familiar?
3 hours ago, nursetim said:You do realize that animals are given the same medications as humans sometimes, right?
There is an actual smear campaign going on about ivermectin as there was for hydroxychloroquine. Outside the US they are used with good effect, but the fda run by former and future big pharmaceutical executives have stifled, with the assistance of the mass media, to vilify legitimate treatments. You can check this out for yourselves, if there is a treatment, then the “vaccines” lose their Emergency Use Authorization. That is a lot of money lost if that happens, too big to fail sound familiar?
Derp. It sounds like you don't realize that the medication is not even emergently approved for treatment of acute covid infection in humans. Or do you have covid treatment protocols for Ivermectin written on the headband of your tinfoil hat?
4 hours ago, nursetim said:You do realize that animals are given the same medications as humans sometimes, right?
There is an actual smear campaign going on about ivermectin as there was for hydroxychloroquine. Outside the US they are used with good effect, but the fda run by former and future big pharmaceutical executives have stifled, with the assistance of the mass media, to vilify legitimate treatments. You can check this out for yourselves, if there is a treatment, then the “vaccines” lose their Emergency Use Authorization. That is a lot of money lost if that happens, too big to fail sound familiar?
Really, hydroxy works for covid? Where? Cite a source please. Here’s mine that says it doesn’t:
”March 8, 2021
The end of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19
A study shows the drug has no benefit, and a researcher reflects on year on the hydroxychloroquine roller coaster.”
https://newsroom.uw.edu/postscript/end-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-covid-19
Here is a nice review of the use of ivermectin.
"If someone thinks they're safe [because they're taking ivermectin], they're making a judgment that impacts not only their health but their community's health," she says, "by either use of resources at the hospital, or [by getting and] spreading COVID. That is the real risk and danger of misinformation."
The toll of COVID-19 on people who are unvaccinated has been harsh. By mid September, as the delta variant continued to surge, hospitalizations were at their highest since early February; more than 1,800 people were dying of COVID-19 each day. The vast majority of people who have been hospitalized for or killed by the disease in recent months were not vaccinated.
5 hours ago, nursej22 said:Here is a nice review of the use of ivermectin.
"If someone thinks they're safe [because they're taking ivermectin], they're making a judgment that impacts not only their health but their community's health," she says, "by either use of resources at the hospital, or [by getting and] spreading COVID. That is the real risk and danger of misinformation."
The toll of COVID-19 on people who are unvaccinated has been harsh. By mid September, as the delta variant continued to surge, hospitalizations were at their highest since early February; more than 1,800 people were dying of COVID-19 each day. The vast majority of people who have been hospitalized for or killed by the disease in recent months were not vaccinated.
I just just about to post this article myself. It is why I just got on. I thought it was a good article. This quote was fair....
"There's misinformation on both sides," says Jennifer Granston, head of insights at Zignal Labs, a firm that conducts data analysis on internet trends. She cited inflated, unsubstantiated claims of both the drug's efficacy and its harms. "At the end of the day, does this medication help COVID patients or does it not? That's a scientific issue."
And for all the ones talking about Merck making money off this.
Merck's stock price was in the 70.00 range before the pandemic it still is..
However Moderna' stock was around 30.00 a share before the pandemic
it is now 430.00 a share.
This was from the peoples vaccine alliance......At least nine people have become new billionaires since the beginning of the COVID pandemic, thanks to the excessive profits pharmaceutical corporations with monopolies on COVID vaccines are making, The People’s Vaccine Alliance revealed today ahead of a G20 leaders Global Health Summit.
So yeah people are getting rich but Merck is not.
51 minutes ago, RKM2021 said:And for all the ones talking about Merck making money off this.
Who was talking talking about Merck making money? I must have missed that. I do recall a claim made that Merck has no incentive to market ivermectin because it’s off patent.
I did post that Merck discourages it’s use.
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I agree, yet apparently they were deemed journalistic enough to be picked up by other regular news stations, without doing research, so I guess Rolling Stone carries more weight that I thought which is scary.