Pt having a "friend" over for "special nursing care"

[delphine22]

You know what I mean. . .a patient having someone of the opposite sex (or the same sex! that's happened too) that they are romantically involved with, spend the night (thankfully in a private room) and performing overt sex acts, to the horror of the poor CNA who has to come in and fix her tele leads, which have obviously come loose from all the activity.

I was horrified to know that not only does my hospital not have a policy against this, but the house supervisor told me I was not allowed to tell them to stop! These are sick people here! I understand people say they have "physical needs," but can we draw a line somewhere?!

[Dewman]

Happy wife, happy life :-) I agree!

Or as I have heard it: "If Mama ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy!"

[SubSippi]

The patient did not ask you to go watch them. They should have there privacy (because it is private room) in there own room. Nurses dont have the right to just go in without knocking. If you believe that you cannot have privacy outside your home then it is your belief but there people who have different beliefs because you are not the only person in the world and they are not here to PLEASE you. And you are here to judge them because of there belief of what privacy in a private room is. Is this really being therapeutic to the client? Is being a Nurse being able to judge what your patient's beliefs?

I knock on doors as a warning that someone is about to come in, not to ask permission. A private room means they don't have a roommate, not that the patient gets to dictate when the nurse is allowed to be in there. They can have as much sex as they can handle when I'm not there, but I'm not delaying care because they're trying to get off.

[macawake, MSN]

I've been known to completely discount some opinions because they're so poorly expressed the poster MUST be ignorant and/or uneducated. It's hard to take an opinion seriously when the grammar and spelling are completely incorrect.

I’m aware that my grammar is atrocious. At times it even grates on my nerves English is only one of the six languages that I know. I only truly master three of the six, English isn’t one of them. I don’t believe that this makes me ignorant, but perhaps uneducated or rather, undereducated. There’s always room for improvement. I believe that’s true for most of us.

I would still hope and expect to be taken as seriously as anyone else. You know that if you were to visit my country you would, using your criterion, sound ignorant and uneducated. You’re not though. There are so many different languages spoken in the world, it’s nigh on impossible to have a good command of them all.

[liberated847]

Or as I have heard it: "If Mama ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy!"

Finally we agree on something lol

[jadelpn, LPN, EMT-B]

To think of it in an entirely different way, a nurse (or a CNA, a housekeeper, etc) could claim sexual harassment if they walk in on a patient who is having sex in an acute care setting. (one could argue that this could occur in LTC as well).

Additionally, a roomate could also claim the same thing.....

It doesn't matter what one personally thinks about sex. In the workplace, nurses and other healthcare workers have the right to do their jobs without having to tip toe around patients who are engaging in sexual activity.

[MORasks]

Whoa.

What we think the patient needs may not be the measure for determining hospital policy, but are we not supposed to be patient advocates? If our personal thoughts are irrelevant, than why not just hire Joe Blow off the street to do nursing?

That is exactly why you are a nurse. Being a patient advocate means speaking for a patient. Now this thread needs to speak for the patient instead of them in place of the patient. Expressing your thought is different. If need is not the basis of everything then what?

[ktwlpn, LPN]

Let's talk about "customer service". Shouldn't a patient expect privacy and courtesy from all staff? Let's forget bout patients having sex in the hospital for a minute and consider the total loss of control a patient experiences. Is it too much to ask staff to knock on the freaking door before entering? If you knock on the door first the chances of being eye-raped are low.

I know tele leads fall off all day long. How many patient's go flat out into asystole without any other irregularity first? Really-how often does that happen?

[Ruby Vee, BSN]

I'm aware that my grammar is atrocious. At times it even grates on my nerves English is only one of the six languages that I know. I only truly master three of the six, English isn't one of them. I don't believe that this makes me ignorant, but perhaps uneducated or rather, undereducated. There's always room for improvement. I believe that's true for most of us.

I would still hope and expect to be taken as seriously as anyone else. You know that if you were to visit my country you would, using your criterion, sound ignorant and uneducated. You're not though. There are so many different languages spoken in the world, it's nigh on impossible to have a good command of them all.

I'm sure I would sound ignorant, uneducated and laughable in your country.

Your spelling, grammar and punctuation are fine. What I was talking about is the poster who doesn't bother with paragraphs, punctuation or spelling out "you" or "your" even though they're perfectly willing and able to spell out "uneducated" or "criterion." Text speak, in other words. If you can't be bothered to even try -- and it's usually fairly obvious when one is NOT trying -- to write professionally, your opinion probably isn't worth reading.

I have to admire someone who speaks several languages and is able to coherently post in a language that is not their own.

[Ruby Vee, BSN]

Let's talk about "customer service". Shouldn't a patient expect privacy and courtesy from all staff? Let's forget bout patients having sex in the hospital for a minute and consider the total loss of control a patient experiences. Is it too much to ask staff to knock on the freaking door before entering? If you knock on the door first the chances of being eye-raped are low.

I know tele leads fall off all day long. How many patient's go flat out into asystole without any other irregularity first? Really-how often does that happen?

It happens often enough that I'm not going to be the one to ignore it.

And "customer service," for all the current hulabuloo, does not belong in "health care." Someday soon perhaps it will take second place again, which is exactly where it should be.

[Thimbalina]

Ok, so… after they want you to get them a cigarette. Do you turn off the oxygen? or just let em burn?

'how 'bout a ham sandwich?'

[duskyjewel]

Once again

So if he was not suppose to do an activity that makes his heart pound. Why wasn't he educated not to do so? Since you are trying to educate me. Wouldn't you tell the patient prior to signing an admission that he is not allowed to do such?

Because patients ALWAYS obey everything their nurses (and doctors) say, right.....

[MORasks]

Because patients ALWAYS obey everything their nurses (and doctors) say, right.....

As well as nurses does ALWAYS follow patients rights, Right? Like knocking on a private room before you enter?