Proposed Bill"Certified Geriatric Specialists" CNA passing meds and doing tx

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Dear friends,

I was just reading some bills that might be passed.

One is being proposed for 2004.

SB492/HB189 "Certified Geriatric Specialists" allowing CNA's to complete training then being able to administer meds and treatment to residents and would also be counted as licensed nurses for the purpose of minimum nursing criteria in NH's.

what is your opinion on this bill?

Would you want CNA's passing meds? in your NH?

Do nursing treatments?

Cna's how do you feel about this new propsed bill?

Let's talk about this bill?

Thanks.

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Specializes in Critical Care.

Unsafe, If they want to do the duty they need to nursing school.

Noney

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I think the rationale has something to do with the fact that the clients are "residents" (in a home environment versus acute care). If they were in a private home who would administer meds? But I agree, this is too spooky for me and I would not want my loved one being "nursed" by a non-licensed person.

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Don't some states have medication aids already in LTC? As far as meeting minimum nursing levels in LTC..at my facility the problem is getting enough CNAs not nurses (well sometimes nurses). I think they need to increase the level of CNA minimum requirements, not make them do other tasks like meds and treatments. Just having a few more minutes to spend with residents means the difference of getting teeth brushed or adequate foot care.. just my 2 cents.

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If it would improve the training of "un-licensed personel" then I'm all for it.

Anyone working in healthcare needs as much training as they can get.

Just my two pennies.

-Dave

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Maybe some sort of med administration course, but I as a CNA am not too crazy about passing meds since i'm not licensed.

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

Are they going to be held liable for their actions or will it be the RN/LPN to take the fall?

I think we know the answer to that one, and no, I don't think that CNAs giving meds is a good idea.

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:eek:

I agree...who's responsible if the pt has a unhealthy "reaction" from a med

being administered by a CNA....the RN, facility, MD???

Its not worth losing my license over! Who's the idiot that submitted this bill?

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Specializes in Inpatient Acute Rehab.

:uhoh3: :uhoh3: :uhoh3:

Not a good thing. Not a good thing at all!!!

Nurse assistants are a very big part of the nursing team, but, it takes more than a class to know the meds!!!

I think it is a great big mistake waiting to happen. I personally would not want to be responsible for patients that someone else was giving medicine to while I'm respnsible for them. :nono:

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Where does the liability lie?

I can appreciate CNA's desirous of more training, possibility of a bridge to RN/LPN and the possibiblity of more money-- and I think the liability is too great.

The bottom line must $$ for the state. LTCFs will be able to accomplish more with less wages than that of RN/LPN.

Seems like it creates more questions and problems th-- all for the sake of MONEY.

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Specializes in Gerontological, cardiac, med-surg, peds.

BAAAD Idea!

Simply the politicos and facility admin "answer" to the nursing shortage that I warned about in an earlier post. I said they were going to try to take people off the street and train them in a few weeks to do OUR jobs and use the "nursing crisis" as the reason. They DON'T want to fix the REAL problem.

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Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.
Where does the liability lie?

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With the charge nurses,I am sure.... :uhoh21:
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