President Biden thread

toomuchbaloney said:

I agree with the notion that this is a right wing strategy to quiet the criticisms and correct assessments of Trump.  Somehow warning the people of a dumpster fire is the same as setting the dumpster on fire in Trumplandia.  It's not going to work.  

It reminds me of the head of the Heritage Foundation saying this Summer that there would be a bloodless revolution, if liberals allow it.  

Do you realize that you and Harris and the rest of the propagandists call far more attention to the Heritage Foundation and the infamous "Project 2025" that Trump or Republicans do? 

For the party of "anti- disinformation", there is no evidence that Trump supports these ridiculous "Project 2025" and he has said he doesn't. A narcissist wouldn't call his own creation ridiculous and say he has nothing to do with it. 

toomuchbaloney said:

Biden is old but wise and thoughtful and interested in making our republic more equitable.  Thank you for sharing that.  

Too bad his own party didn't think so and replaced him with a person who recieves no votes for the 2025 candidate. 

Beerman said:

I'm trying to clarify.  @nursej22 is trying real hard to have us believe Biden and Harris haven't said that "Trump is a threat to democracy."

If there is nothing wrong with them saying it, why the need to argue that they haven't?

Trump is a threat to democracy.  Whether or not Biden or Harris say that, it remains a reality that others write and say regularly.  

Who is arguing?  It's not reckless or dangerous to speak the truth about Trump.  

toomuchbaloney said:

The hypocrisy is staggering.  

Isn't it tho? Trump calls people nasty names and post vulgar memes and yet, no one has tried to assinate any one of his targets. Twice in 9 months. 

Trump has never called anyone a "existential threat" that needs to be put in a "bullseye" And needs to be "eliminated ". 😳 

Beerman said:

The first black woman gay Haitian etc. Press Secretary is despicable.   A perfect representative though of the most politically divisive and inept administrations we've ever had.

"During a press briefing on Tuesday, Fox News senior White House correspondent Peter Doocy asked Jean-Pierre, "How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump, other than 'threat?’" 

Jean-Pierre told Doocy she completely disagreed with the premise of his question, calling the way he asked it "incredibly dangerous" because Americans are watching."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jean-pierre-scorched-utterly-heinous-response-defending-biden-harris-rhetoric-calling-trump-threat

What? The first gay Haitiann POC got the press secretary job? How dare her use her privilege over the transgender,   bipoc vegan muslium feminist who also applied for the job?  

toomuchbaloney said:

Trump is a threat to democracy.  Whether or not Biden or Harris say that, it remains a reality that others write and say regularly.  

Who is arguing?  It's not reckless or dangerous to speak the truth about Trump.  

Like all the accusations about rigging, this schtick is intended to silence trump critics and set the stage for a violent response to his pending election loss. It all hinges on the inability of  concrete thinkers to recognize false equivalency.

Crusades said:

Isn't it tho? Trump calls people nasty names and post vulgar memes and yet, no one has tried to assinate any one of his targets. Twice in 9 months. 

Trump has never called anyone a "existential threat" that needs to be put in a "bullseye" And needs to be "eliminated ". 😳 

Sure. None of the threats against people that Trump had talked about matter, apparently.  The hypocrisy is staggering.  

Trump joked about an attempt on Paul Pelosi and shared an image of Biden hogtied in the back of a truck.  The double standard is obvious and mind numbing.  

Crusades said:

I think the 2 people who tried to assinate Trump are deranged. A symptom of listening to mainstream media and politicians spew hateful violent rhetoric for 7 yrs. 

Have any substance to your feelings and speculations?  Or only name calling? Isn't that what Trump does? 

Trump is deranged. Many of his followers are similarly deranged.  It's just reality.  

Folie en masse

Crusades said:

Do you realize that you and Harris and the rest of the propagandists call far more attention to the Heritage Foundation and the infamous "Project 2025" that Trump or Republicans do? 

For the party of "anti- disinformation", there is no evidence that Trump supports these ridiculous "Project 2025" and he has said he doesn't. A narcissist wouldn't call his own creation ridiculous and say he has nothing to do with it. 

Of course they do.  Republicans are trying to keep their unpopular plans out of the news until artery the election.   

Trump didn't create Project 2025. Trump doesn't have actual plans of that magnitude.  He's just a mentally ill authoritarian who will allow others to create the plans that might fit with his "concepts" of plans.  

Crusades said:

I agree. Violent radical rhetoric by the left media and politicians caused 2 mental ill people(allegedly mentally ill, perhaps you could provide your expert opinion) to try and kill Trump 2 times in 9 weeks. For 7 years people who have heard Trump is Hitler tried to kill him. Although apparently you wouldn't support the assination of Hitler (BS) others would. 

Yes.  You would support the assassination of a leader like Hitler... or so you indicated in these threads.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Of course they do.  Republicans are trying to keep their unpopular plans out of the news until artery the election.   

Trump didn't create Project 2025. Trump doesn't have actual plans of that magnitude.  He's just a mentally ill authoritarian who will allow others to create the plans that might fit with his "concepts" of plans.  

Yes.  You would support the assassination of a leader like Hitler... or so you indicated in these threads.  

And you would not support an assination on Hitler. As you said in these threads. I'm sure allot of Nazis and white supremist would agree with you. 

toomuchbaloney said:

Sure. None of the threats against people that Trump had talked about matter, apparently.  The hypocrisy is staggering.  

Trump joked about an attempt on Paul Pelosi and shared an image of Biden hogtied in the back of a truck.  The double standard is obvious and mind numbing.  

 

Of course they matter but some of the examples below apparently do not matter? 

I was unaware of the hogtied Biden post. I'm willing to concede that this is absolutely inappropriate. 

I wonder if you find these images just as disturbing? (Biden didn't post these however there was very little outrage when they were posted). One complete stage play depicting Trump being beaten and stabbed. 

Perhaps if someone tries to hogtie Biden twice in 9 weeks we can have a conversation?  

And when another manAlaska makes numerous threats to 3/6  supreme court justices, we can discuss more? 

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/19/supreme-court-justices-threats-man-arrested

We could go tit for tat all day about "violent rhetoric", memes and images.    Why don't we just call a truce on that and admit both sides are guilty on both a personal level and by the populace.  

The above memes are disturbing but I don't believe made or re-tweeted by politicians but private citizens and I would guess some of the were taken off the sites they were posted.  But still, free speech and all. 

I believe Biden had what was thought to be an assignation attempt thwarted in 2020, and who knows how many death threats.  There's been breeches.  How many football games could you hear chants of "Let's Go Brandon" (you know what I mean).  How many times have politicians said he hates America and is destroying our country?  

I hope Taylor Swift has good security after Trump posted that he hates her.

But Trump had two assignation attempts so we must endure the blame game because that's more horrific.

You guys can carry on and part of me is pleased that suddenly people are concerned about rhetoric, and democrats have been called upon to self-reflect about their language of threats and fascism.  It's a trap.  I think the right is justified in asking for this.  Although I still will maintain as they do this, they stop and reflect on themselves, and hold their own leaders and press to the same standard they are demanding of the left.  

In the meantime.   I'll be checking out.  I'm going to Italy at the end of the month and taking some time for my mental health and some reflection.