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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

What memo?  

Yes, the right wing extremism from the Republican political party is radical and unpopular, but they're sure that people will vote for it. 

We could debate some of the plusses of Protect 2025 now because some of them were on Trump's original agenda.  Dismantling our department of education for instance.  Maybe you recall that Trump and Mulvaney and DeVos intended to make the department of education a subdivision of the department of Labor, to train the workforce as a primary goal. 

Goebbels wanted to control the education in Germany...to train a vorkforce.  Why was Betsy Devos such a supporter of charter schools?  1.  To control the Christian narrative and 2.  To sell the educational products she and Dick would make to sell to the charter schools they created.  Trump has stated  publicy that he wants to dismantle the Dept. of Education which is the only thing protecting some students from  budgets cut to the bone in red states where education is not respected as a thing in itself but as an ends to becoming a farm worker, a ranch hand or a gypsum miner.  Only the kids of the wealthy in red states would be able to afford private schools.  It's just a very bad idea to dismantle it.  Change it, make it leaner but don't dismantle it.  We can't afford to be dumber.

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Crusades said:

Have any evidence to the contrary? 

It's impossible to list the number of lies Trump has told.  Why would I, or anyone with an IQ larger than a pine cone, believe ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth?  If he weren't alive, we wouldn't even have generated the idiocy and mean-spiritness it requires to even create such an authoritarian document.  His sycophants couldn't have done it without him.  It all came out of Trump's orifice.

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subee said:

oh let me answer that one.  Illegals aren't the main contributors to crime in America.  And besides that, would anyone suspect that crime would go down during a pandemic?  Many people reacted in my county by buying all the guns and ammo in the stores.  Now we have even more paranoid, idiots with guns.  What could go wrong?

I didn't say anything about illegals being the main contributor to crime.

Moving on, am I understanding you correctly that the reason for increased hate crimes is that paranoid idiots ran out and bought guns during the pandemic?

That's a pretty wild guess, imo.

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subee said:

It's impossible to list the number of lies Trump has told.  Why would I, or anyone with an IQ larger than a pine cone, believe ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth?  If he weren't alive, we wouldn't even have generated the idiocy and mean-spiritness it requires to even create such an authoritarian document.  His sycophants couldn't have done it without him.  It all came out of Trump's orifice.

So where has Yrump said he supports this? On Truth Social? In an interview?. Did the projectc2015 say they wrote it with Trump or for him? 

It's just another far left conspiracy to defame Trump. 

I thought that thev2 riech was going to happen in 2016? 

Now it's changed to 2025? Kinda sounds like the fundamental cults that say the world's going  to end every 2nd Sunday.... 

Until Trump comes out and endorses it, just a desperate attempt to create more fear to deflect from Bidens cognitive decline. . 

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subee said:

The reason that leaving Afghanistan was such a mess was that Trump, in his desire to be a commander in chief, gave the Taliban the withdrawal date.  They had time to steal our tanks and weapons to arm themselves for the attacks at the airport.  Trump would barter the nuclear code if the reward were big enough.  That guy should never have access to any military secrets.  So yes, Trump made the Afghanistan war worst by giving the enemy aid and weapons they never should have had.

Actually,  this is a more accurate version of how Trump handled the Taliban:

https://youtu.be/PjM3eS5DOaU?feature=shared

 

 

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Beerman said:

Actually,  this is a more accurate version of how Trump handled the Taliban:

https://youtu.be/PjM3eS5DOaU?feature=shared

 

 

Ya know Beerman? 

I 'm pretty sure Trump was responsible for WW1, WW2, Vietnam, and probably the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. 

Unfortunately the above video will be classified as "far right propaganda " or give "proof" Trump is "gangster" and threatened a Muslim minority  However leave out that it was a terrorist.  

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Crusades said:

Nah. It's an example of the habit of using propagandic tactics with misleading words. 

You used "immigrants " when you suggested Trump "wanted to mass deport immigrants " 

Instead of "mass deport illegal immigrants " 

The left is full of them. 

"Deny women healthcare" =  legality of abortion but the former sugest "Trump wants to deny women health care". Without correctly using it it it's proper context of abortion. 

"Deny trans kids health care " = The legality of puberty blockers and gender affirming surgery". 

Again, using deceptive wording and fallacy..... 

No, I used exactly the word I intended to use. 

Nah... abortion is health care and Trump is proud of the chaotic and crazy restrictions on that healthcare access enacted by republican lawmakers and religious zealots.  

You are pushing against the standard of care for transgendered youth, preferring the treatment options s designed by extremists and zealots rather than by health professionals. 

All while you pretend that other members are misleading people simply because you believe lies and propaganda and disagree with reality about Trump and his agenda.  

 

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Beerman said:

I didn't say anything about illegals being the main contributor to crime.

Moving on, am I understanding you correctly that the reason for increased hate crimes is that paranoid idiots ran out and bought guns during the pandemic?

That's a pretty wild guess, imo.

What would you imagine might precipitate a rise in right wing extremism and hate crimes (mostly by right wing groups or individuals) in the past decade or so? We certainly can find correlation.  

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/31/1032932257/hate-crimes-reach-the-highest-level-in-more-than-a-decade

It's more like people's fears and anxieties and anger were manipulated by targeted propaganda. Some of them always act out those fears and feelings in hateful ways.  It's our national history.  

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Crusades said:

So where has Yrump said he supports this? On Truth Social? In an interview?. Did the projectc2015 say they wrote it with Trump or for him? 

It's just another far left conspiracy to defame Trump. 

I thought that thev2 riech was going to happen in 2016? 

Now it's changed to 2025? Kinda sounds like the fundamental cults that say the world's going  to end every 2nd Sunday.... 

Until Trump comes out and endorses it, just a desperate attempt to create more fear to deflect from Bidens cognitive decline. . 

LOL

You seem really desperate to separate Trump from the plans of Team Trump.  It's almost like you don't know that many of the authors of the Project are Trump staff or advisors.  

It is kind of amusing to watch people desperate to believe what a lying conman tells them even when he's used exactly the same type of lies to deny other knowledge or behaviors previously.  How can people be so terminally gullible? 

Beerman said:

Actually,  this is a more accurate version of how Trump handled the Taliban:

https://youtu.be/PjM3eS5DOaU?feature=shared

 

 

OMG... that's funny.  

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Beerman said:

I didn't say anything about illegals being the main contributor to crime.

Moving on, am I understanding you correctly that the reason for increased hate crimes is that paranoid idiots ran out and bought guns during the pandemic?

That's a pretty wild guess, imo.

And I didn't me mention anything about excess guns being used for hate crimes  during the pandemic.  But more guns will be used in domestic violence, bar fights , child accidents ta, etc.  I think illegal immigration is illegal on it's own.  It's the guy you are promoting that calls them rapist and murderers.  I think home grown radicals affect us in a worst way and we're shown to have direct access to the WH during the insurrection. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

LOL

You seem really desperate to separate Trump from the plans of Team Trump.  It's almost like you don't know that many of the authors of the Project are Trump staff or advisors.  

It is kind of amusing to watch people desperate to believe what a lying conman tells them even when he's used exactly the same type of lies to deny other knowledge or behaviors previously.  How can people be so terminally gullible? 

OMG... that's funny.  

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

I think the above timeline might be more reliable than the well dressed people on You Tube in someone's basement.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

No, I used exactly the word I intended to use. 

Nah... abortion is health care and Trump is proud of the chaotic and crazy restrictions on that healthcare access enacted by republican lawmakers and religious zealots.  

You are pushing against the standard of care for transgendered youth, preferring the treatment options s designed by extremists and zealots rather than by health professionals. 

All while you pretend that other members are misleading people simply because you believe lies and propaganda and disagree with reality about Trump and his agenda.  

 

Removing minor's healthy limbs and organs under all the risks of general anesthetic/infection is not healthcare. 

Introducing dangerous harmful medications to stop or modify a natural process is not healthcare. 

Up until recently it would be condlsidered medical malpractice to remove healthy limbs/organs and/or prescribed dangerous medications in the absence of disease. 

Show me evidence Trump supports or endorces or authored anything in the "project 2024" idea. 

I'll wait..... 

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