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Wow.  No one has started such a thread yet?

After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

toomuchbaloney said:

 

I know what they wanted.  I watched their cabinet meeting where they laid some of the plan out and I posted about it on this platform at the time.  Trump wanted education to be primarily focused upon training the labor force, not general education of the masses.  

I'm going to go with EducationWeeks reporting on it vs your recollection and perception of a cabinet meeting that occurred 6 years ago.

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Beerman said:

I'm going to go with EducationWeeks reporting on it vs your recollection and perception of a cabinet meeting that occurred 6 years ago.

OK. 

 

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Crusades said:

Illegal immigrants.  Propaganda!! 

This passes for thoughtful discussion in your view?  It looks like trolling to me. Maybe it's just exactly the republican stance on immigration... not much to talk about beyond hyperpartisan snark and angst. I should expect this I guess.  

 

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Crusades said:

So he hasn't then? 

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/05/trump-project-2025-heritage-foundation

Right.  

Exactly like Trump didn't know anything about that payment to Stormy Daniels or exactly like he didn't know who Les Parnas is?  Remember when Trump lied about knowing Prince Andrew or Gordon Sondlond when he thought it might be bad to be associated with them? 

Denial is Trump's go to defense followed closely by projection.  I certainly know better than to believe a pathological liar about things like this. 

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Beerman said:

I know you've answered.  But, when I use your words you say I'm misrepresenting your comments.

So, a immigrant is apprehended crossing our border illegally.  In your words, what should be done with him/her?

I want them to be detained until their case is adjuficated.  That would be a deterrent and is allowed per our laws.

If you are going to use my words then you should probably indicate that somehow so they don't appear as your own words.  What you write is necessarily going to be attributed to you unless you identify the words as something else.  

IMV your characterization of comments or stances of others is often incorrect.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Right.  

Exactly like Trump didn't know anything about that payment to Stormy Daniels or exactly like he didn't know who Les Parnas is?  Remember when Trump lied about knowing Prince Andrew or Gordon Sondlond when he thought it might be bad to be associated with them? 

Denial is Trump's go to defense followed closely by projection.  I certainly know better than to believe a pathological liar about things like this. 

So Trump has not  endorsed this project 2025? 

Trump has not endorsed project 2025 

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toomuchbaloney said:

This passes for thoughtful discussion in your view?  It looks like trolling to me. Maybe it's just exactly the republican stance on immigration... not much to talk about beyond hyperpartisan snark and angst. I should expect this I guess.  

 

Nah. It's an example of the habit of using propagandic tactics with misleading words. 

You used "immigrants " when you suggested Trump "wanted to mass deport immigrants " 

Instead of "mass deport illegal immigrants " 

The left is full of them. 

"Deny women healthcare" =  legality of abortion but the former sugest "Trump wants to deny women health care". Without correctly using it it it's proper context of abortion. 

"Deny trans kids health care " = The legality of puberty blockers and gender affirming surgery". 

Again, using deceptive wording and fallacy..... 

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Crusades said:

So Trump has not  endorsed this project 2025? 

Trump has not endorsed project 2025 

That's what you believe.  

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Beerman said:

Yes, it would cost us tax dollars for detention, but the numbers would go down.  Likely costing us less in resources everywhere else.

Should we stop prosecuting crimes because it costs money to do so?

In short, you're in favor of open borders.  We'll just have to agree to disagree.  Not much else to discuss.

If you're going to assume a correlation between Trump and increasing hate crimes, then what's your correlation between Biden and a dramatic increase in hate crimes?

You could be right.  I'm not sure why "it's important to note"?

oh let me answer that one.  Illegals aren't the main contributors to crime in America.  And besides that, would anyone suspect that crime would go down during a pandemic?  Many people reacted in my county by buying all the guns and ammo in the stores.  Now we have even more paranoid, idiots with guns.  What could go wrong?

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Beerman said:

I'm going to go with EducationWeeks reporting on it vs your recollection and perception of a cabinet meeting that occurred 6 years ago.

Always need more than 1 source.  The story may be accurate but a single source is sketchy.  I've noticed that the majority of stories on the internet are just quoting one source so a mistake gets printed thousands of times as "news" when it's the same story repeated verbatim.

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toomuchbaloney said:

That's what you believe.  

Since Trump denies even knowing about 2025, you know he lying again.  Those are his peeps that put that code together.  It's not a platform.  Just a bunch of miscreants trying to create the New Reich.

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toomuchbaloney said:

That's what you believe.  

Have any evidence to the contrary? 

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