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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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Crusades said:

The only reliable media according to a far left demogogue is anything except right wing LOL. 

Probably true if you're a "far left demagogue" as why would a far left demagogue consume right wing media?   

I remember though during the advent of "fake news media", a poster here named all the fake news media:  NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NPR, ABC, NY Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, CBS, on and on.  All were fake news media except for Fox News.

Depends on which way the wind blows whether Fox News is even fake news to Trump and followers or not.  

Crazy times.  

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Tweety said:

To me the Post is kind of like a gossip website that clearly campaigns against Biden.  I think they know their audience.  They do cover a few sports stories, off the beat stories, and an occasional news story.   As I type their lead stories are about disgraced Rap mogul "P. Diddy" (or whatever he's going by now),  

But they weren't necessarily lying about what Biden said.  He said what he said.  Apparently he meant to say "recession" instead of "pandemic" and if you look at the context of what he said about going to Detroit that seems reasonable as he didn't go on to talk about covid.  But a gaffe is a gaffe and he didn't catch himself.

https://www.Yahoo.com/news/biden-says-still-vp-during-162400706.html

Yeah.  A gaffe is a gaffe.  

It's irrelevant and meaningless. 

The notion that Biden was going to assassinate Trump is much more interesting. 

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"The Obama administration stymied multiple FBI arrest operations against individuals on US soil linked to Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs – including "known terrorists" – in order to further negotiations on the Iran nuclear deal, two Republican senators said Wednesday."

https://nypost.com/2024/05/22/us-news/obama-state-department-blocked-fbi-from-arresting-supporters-of-iran-nuclear-program-in-us-emails/

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Tweety said:

To me the Post is kind of like a gossip website that clearly campaigns against Biden.  I think they know their audience.  They do cover a few sports stories, off the beat stories, and an occasional news story.   As I type their lead stories are about disgraced Rap mogul "P. Diddy" (or whatever he's going by now),  

But they weren't necessarily lying about what Biden said.  He said what he said.  Apparently he meant to say "recession" instead of "pandemic" and if you look at the context of what he said about going to Detroit that seems reasonable as he didn't go on to talk about covid.  But a gaffe is a gaffe and he didn't catch himself.

https://www.Yahoo.com/news/biden-says-still-vp-during-162400706.html

AllSides.com has been used here before to rate bias.

NY Times, WashPo, Philadelphia Inquirer,  Variety, ABC News have all been cited here without complaint.  They are all further left bias than NY Post is to the right, according to AllSides.

And, NY Post actually covers a lot of news and sports, especially local NY.  It's not "occasional".

I do agree they come across as gossip tabloid-like at times.  Some of that I think is the layout.  Reminds me of the National Enquire in the grocery store checkout aisle.

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toomuchbaloney said:

I watched that this morning.  

It's odd to me that republicans keep telling us that Biden is incompetent and can't string two sentences together.  Day to day evidence paints a different narrative, one of an old, but cognitively intact man with empathy and experience and honor.  

Anyway, one black man's opinion on the speech:

"Joe Biden is right. Black people are treated as negatively different, inferior and undeserving of being seen as equals.

The culprit of such behavior: Joe Biden himself.

He's incapable of speaking to black people without reminding us of past plights, or ones that we're all supposedly dealing with today, as an emotional ploy to leverage our votes."

https://nypost.com/2024/05/20/opinion/joe-biden-was-racist-and-patronizing-in-his-speech-to-morehouse-grads/

 

 

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Beerman said:

Anyway, one black man's opinion on the speech:

"Joe Biden is right. Black people are treated as negatively different, inferior and undeserving of being seen as equals.

The culprit of such behavior: Joe Biden himself.

He's incapable of speaking to black people without reminding us of past plights, or ones that we're all supposedly dealing with today, as an emotional ploy to leverage our votes."

https://nypost.com/2024/05/20/opinion/joe-biden-was-racist-and-patronizing-in-his-speech-to-morehouse-grads/

 

 

So, how does this person's opinion support the right-wing narrative of Biden's cognitive function?

Galloping goalposts! Wrong =\= senile.

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Beerman said:

Anyway, one black man's opinion on the speech:

"Joe Biden is right. Black people are treated as negatively different, inferior and undeserving of being seen as equals.

The culprit of such behavior: Joe Biden himself.

He's incapable of speaking to black people without reminding us of past plights, or ones that we're all supposedly dealing with today, as an emotional ploy to leverage our votes."

https://nypost.com/2024/05/20/opinion/joe-biden-was-racist-and-patronizing-in-his-speech-to-morehouse-grads/

 

 

That is completely unrelated to the comment you quoted.  Maybe you're just throwing things at a wall to see what can stick.  

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Beerman said:

Anyway, one black man's opinion on the speech:

"Joe Biden is right. Black people are treated as negatively different, inferior and undeserving of being seen as equals.

The culprit of such behavior: Joe Biden himself.

He's incapable of speaking to black people without reminding us of past plights, or ones that we're all supposedly dealing with today, as an emotional ploy to leverage our votes."

https://nypost.com/2024/05/20/opinion/joe-biden-was-racist-and-patronizing-in-his-speech-to-morehouse-grads/

 

 

One a single student says isn't relevant.  I don't look to college students for wisdom:)  But the rag, AKA The Post, just HAD to take up space or this story.  It's not even worth the electons it used.

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Beerman said:

Anyway, one black man's opinion on the speech:

"Joe Biden is right. Black people are treated as negatively different, inferior and undeserving of being seen as equals.

The culprit of such behavior: Joe Biden himself.

He's incapable of speaking to black people without reminding us of past plights, or ones that we're all supposedly dealing with today, as an emotional ploy to leverage our votes."

https://nypost.com/2024/05/20/opinion/joe-biden-was-racist-and-patronizing-in-his-speech-to-morehouse-grads/

 

 

I can't tell a black person that Biden isn't racist to him.  Clearly his speech was a campaign stop courting the black vote, and probably that's the only reason he chose Moorehouse.  But wanting the black vote and highlighting struggles unique to their experience isn't racist.  I honestly think with some people your dambed if you do and damned if you don't.  The same person would criticize him for only speaking at majority white schools or not highlighting their issues.

Biden has a black voter problem and maybe isn't handling it, but throwing out the vile racist accusation doesn't ring true to  me.

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Beerman said:

AllSides.com has been used here before to rate bias.

NY Times, WashPo, Philadelphia Inquirer,  Variety, ABC News have all been cited here without complaint.  They are all further left bias than NY Post is to the right, according to AllSides.

And, NY Post actually covers a lot of news and sports, especially local NY.  It's not "occasional".

 

Fair enough and "occasional" was tongue in cheek and not a good way to put it.  Overall they have a lot of stories  But you won't convince me because they don't slant right wing on many of them that they don't have an anti-Biden agenda.  

That said, I get weary of posters not digging deeper and just attacking the source and ignore what is being said.

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Tweety said:

Biden has a black voter problem and maybe isn't handling it, but throwing out the vile racist accusation doesn't ring true to  me.

I've heard this before.  I'm trying to figure out what the problem is or if "problem" is a media amplification of a right wing contention.  Polling numbers for Biden are cuteness down slightly among some subsets of the black vote but I have difficulty imagining that throngs of black voters will vote for Trump and they are less likely to stay home and not vote at all. 

What do you think...a couple of white guys should have all of the answers.  

 

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Tweety said:

That said, I get weary of posters not digging deeper and just attacking the source and ignore what is being said.

I don't think that happens that often. It is pretty clear, on occasion, that citations are not read.  Sometimes it seems they aren't even read by the members who are sharing them.  

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