President Biden thread

Beerman said:

No.  I don't see how that are being irrational.  Tell me how.

The "other guy" isn't currently the President of the United States.  Biden has another year to go.  And you want 4 more after thst? God help us all.

How personally has Biden worked against my favor?  Well, I'll go for the quick, low-hanging fruit.

While acknowledging some inflation was inevitable,  he has exacerbated the problem.  Everything costs significantly more.

Many of our hospital systems are cutting raises and capitol improvements because the drastic increase in uncompensated care for migrants.

The City of Denver is cutting services to help make up for a estimated $180 million to assist migrants this year.

That's just a start. 

That's an interesting take.  When the other guy was president we were spiraling into an economic hole as covid overwhelmed our country and health system and small businesses closed in record numbers. I know that charts and graphs have been introduced into this conversation to note that Biden's leadership has given us a relatively soft landing from past pandemic inflation, but myself and others.  Yet this notion persists that Biden made it worse.  I don't believe you because the data contradicts this feeling that you repeat.  Maybe you could support your feeling about Biden exacerbating costs while also keeping our rates among the lowest 10 countries rather than the highest 10 countries.  Perhaps you could share with us the information that causes you to believe something not expressed in the data. It can be difficult to source opinion from talk radio.  

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PCPIPCH@WEO/WEOWORLD/VEN

https://www.officialdata.org/countries

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/insights/which-countries-have-the-highest-level-of-inflation-in-2023/

It's really unfortunate that immigration is such a problem but congressional Republicans won't even debate and offer amendments to bipartisan immigration reform that's languishing in the Senate.  Rumor has it that republicans will allow cities like Denver to struggle because it helps Trump's campaign to be able to complain about immigration and border grievance.  It is true that Lankford didn't negotiate much assistance for interior communities as immigrants and refugees are relocated away from the border.  That is something that should be improved with amendments.  You know, if Republicans were at all interested in legislating to improve lives and laws.  This 118th congress is having difficulty governing with republicans providing leadership. Their track record is just depressing.  

Which temporary executive order are you hoping that Biden submits first to "fix" our border? It will be fun to watch and listen as Republicans disagree with it, challenge it in court and try to undo it now that they've indicated that EOs are the only way they see forward to affecting any change at all. 

Don't you wonder why republican lawmakers don't want to take steps to make that better? Or maybe most people understand that they don't want to improve problems in an election year when their campaigns are based in grievance.  

Beerman said:

No.  I don't see how that are being irrational.  Tell me how.

The "other guy" isn't currently the President of the United States.  Biden has another year to go.  And you want 4 more after thst? God help us all.

How personally has Biden worked against my favor?  Well, I'll go for the quick, low-hanging fruit.

While acknowledging some inflation was inevitable,  he has exacerbated the problem.  Everything costs significantly more.

Many of our hospital systems are cutting raises and capitol improvements because the drastic increase in uncompensated care for migrants.

The City of Denver is cutting services to help make up for a estimated $180 million to assist migrants this year.

That's just a start. 

I agree that the border is one of our existential crises but I don't blame Biden for much of it.  There are plenty of other borders people have to cross before they arrive to the Texas border.  Right now I don't believe it is solvable until America gets out of China and moves those jobs to South and Central America.  It's a worldwide problem and other nations haven't been able to close down their borders which are miniscule in area compared to what we have.  I think I read that the Border Patrol is pro Biden after Trump ignored their requests. When I lived in NY, I worked with parents that had kids in schools who had to shut down their gifted programs to handle the ESL classes.  That's a problem because these students didn't fall into the catchment areas to apply to NYC's elite public high schools.  Inflation?  Nah.  Out of his control but the guy at the Fed that Trump  appointed has been doing a good balancing act between increasing oe decreasing interest rates.  I'm don't know that a president can actually fire the head of The Fed but Biden didn't.   No  retribution here..he kept a Republican because he thought he was rhe BEST qualified person for the job.  Complaining that everything costs more...well , duh, what did you think were the after effects of  world wide pandemic?  We have changed in a multiple of previous norms causing social upheavals in our country.   Denver's problems aren't yours so you can't use that as an example of how Biden has changed YOUR life.  Nor have you proposed any solutions for the border.  I can see no solution short of suspending the  amnesty as we understand it to mean now.  Something that would change our reputation across the world.  Our former allies will never see us as a serious country after Trump.  But don't worry about these little things:)  Climate change will be much worst .  Up here the warming has been devastating to the Winter sport areas.  They are mostly rural and poor and now they have no tourists.  It's gonna get uglier.  Meanwhile, I'm still here to listen to how Biden has affected you personally ...and no first world problems are allowed:):):)

Beerman said:

If you're going to be the one who determines how Biden's actions effect me, why ask me further for my opinion?

Aren't you participating in a discussion? That might be why she asked you a question after expressing her impressions about your previous remarks.  

Beerman said:

"Joe Biden should not be running for re-election. That much was obvious well before the special prosecutor's comments on the president's memory lapses inspired a burst of age-related angst. And Democrats who are furious at the prosecutor have to sense that it will become only more obvious as we move deeper into an actual campaign."

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/opinion/joe-biden-convention-2024.html

I no longer have a NYT subscription. Whose opinion is that? Conservatives are certainly working hard to push the narrative that Biden is too fragile to run.  

If only the alternative to Biden wasn't a dangerously corrupt and mentally ill republican who is a clear and present danger to our constitution.  It seems to me that conservatives ought to worry more about the man they are elevating who is not only cognitively challenged but also ethically and morally unsuited for the presidency.  

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68203820

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With a fast-growing economy, a strong labour market and falling inflation, the US has outpaced its counterparts in Europe and elsewhere.

In terms of GDP, it posted a 3.3% gain in the fourth quarter of 2023, far exceeding economists' expectations of 2%.

That put the US at 2.5% over the course of the year, outpacing all other advanced economies and on track to do so again in 2024.

"The US is holding up much better than other countries," said Ryan Sweet, Chief US Economist, Oxford Economics. "It seems like the engine of the US economy continues to hum along where it's sputtering in other nations."

I am struck by the shared delusion which insists that Biden is ruining our economy or has made an economic mess. 

toomuchbaloney said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68203820

I am struck by the shared delusion which insists that Biden is ruining our economy or has made an economic mess. 

We saw this during the Obama years as we were recovering from the Great Recession.  People had a hard time feeling confident about the economy.  Maybe after all the inflation and other woes after 2020 people are stilling having a hard time of it.  

But they feel good enough about it, to put it as their #2 concern behind the border.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4422273-immigration-overtakes-inflation-top-voter-concern-poll/

I heard on NPR and can't really find an article about it, but a snippet about a survey of economists saying that legal immigration is fueling our economy.  That the job growth amongst American-born workers has remained steady and strong, but the growth in new jobs is fueled by the foreign born. 

Beerman said:

Many people realize that the best thing that happened for Biden's economy was that Covid went away.  

Inflation is very real for most people.  Inflation has slowed, but that is mostly due to the Fed raising interest rates.  That's not something Biden is in charge of.  And, the higher interest is also hitting people.

And, some not great news on inflation came out today:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/cpi-inflation-January-2024

GDP has been good.  At the same time, the % of GDP that is from govt spending is at a record high (except for 2020).  Some think that will eventually come around to bite us.

 

So what's your solution?  Government spending is always concerning since the times of Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr.  We would have a little more money in the coffers if the Trump's tax cut had never happened.  And as even more insult, no jobs were created.  We repeated the old and previously failed trickle down economics Regan promised.  

subee said:

So what's your solution?  Government spending is always concerning since the times of Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr.  We would have a little more money in the coffers if the Trump's tax cut had never happened.  And as even more insult, no jobs were created.  We repeated the old and previously failed trickle down economics Regan promised.  

In fact, the citation I recently offered indicated that it was that choice to give money to the people, rather than confine then to federal austerity, that was the reason Biden over saw such a robust recovery. That doesn't fit the right wing narrative that Biden made things worse.  They are persistent, because propaganda works.  People may not fully believe them, but repeating the same things over and over do influence and color the thinking of the masses.