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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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Beerman said:

You all might have missed this Friday afternoon news.  I guess Biden finally realized he needed to fix the public perception of him on this issue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-publicly-acknowledges-7th-grandchild-navy-first-time-rcna96987

Nope didn't miss it.  It just doesn't make him look less appropriate for the job than the GOP front runners. He'll never fix the opinion of those who think this is worthy of discussion in the era of Trump. 

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Tweety said:

I didn't miss it.  The conservative press has been hounding him about it for a while now.   I'm not understanding how a private family issue is news worthy of comment.  I suppose it shows that he isn't about "family values" that are so valued by Republicans?  To me it's clearly deflection because they support an indicted man that was an adulterer that paid off a Media stay to stay silent about it.  But that was a private matter as well.

It hasn't been just conservative press, as evidenced by all of the media reporting it this weekend.  And not just a family values issue.  Its gone further than simply not acknowledgjng her.  He has flat out lied about the number of grandchildren he has, and now he's changing his tone.

Not the most important news story.  But, does go to his character.

I've listened off and on to a local conservative talk show host who served in the Bush administration.  He has long maintained that the two most despicable people he knew in Washington were Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden.

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Beerman said:

It hasn't been just conservative press, as evidenced by all of the media reporting it this weekend.  And not just a family values issue.  Its gone further than simply not acknowledgjng her.  He has flat out lied about the number of grandchildren he has, and now he's changing his tone.

Not the most important news story.  But, does go to his character.

I've listened off and on to a local conservative talk show host who served in the Bush administration.  He has long maintained that the two most despicable people he knew in Washington were Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden.

That's fair.

I didn't say it was only conservative press, but their chatter is where I learned of it weeks ago.  But it was covered in the NYT and widely covered elsewhere especially after he finally acknowledged it.  I'll give you that.  

 Hunter took a paternity test that proved it was his child.  After that time when his father stated the number of grandchildren they have, he should have included this one.   I still think it's a private matter, but if it reflects a deeper character flaw perhaps it should be discussed. 

I'm glad to hear that a president that tells a lie that might be reflective of bad character is an issue with conservatives.  Now if they can parlay that into getting rid of Trump, I might show some respect for that stance.  DeSantis and Niki Haley, took jabs at the Joe Biden over the grandchild issue, but as I posted in another post they were silent about Trump and his indictments when in Iowa.

I will also acknowledge that the topic is Joe Biden and his lie about the number of grandchildren he has and I deflected to Trump.  

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Beerman said:

I've listened off and on to a local conservative talk show host who served in the Bush administration.  He has long maintained that the two most despicable people he knew in Washington were Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden.

Yet Biden and Schumer both are still around.

Somewhat old news, but related to former Bush administration people, you might remember many of them formed a super pac to back Biden's election.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/505425-alumni-of-george-w-bush-administration-form-super-pac-to-back-biden/

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Imagine thinking that the two most despicable people in Washington were Biden and Schumer when there are members of congress who are telling lies about an attempt to overthrow the federal government, are gas lighting for the former corrupt president and support George Santos.  

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Tweety said:

Yet Biden and Schumer both are still around.

Somewhat old news, but related to former Bush administration people, you might remember many of them formed a super pac to back Biden's election.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/505425-alumni-of-george-w-bush-administration-form-super-pac-to-back-biden/

I don't remember.  But from the article it sounds like they were more about not liking Trump than they were about supporting Biden. 

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Beerman said:

I don't remember.  But from the article it sounds like they were more about not liking Trump than they were about supporting Biden. 

That's the point.  

Trump was a disaster waiting to happen in 2016 and those Republicans tried to prevent the disaster from happening by supporting the sane and experienced Democrat.  I imagine more may be inclined that way should Trump actually win the GOP nomination. 

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Beerman said:

I don't remember.  But from the article it sounds like they were more about not liking Trump than they were about supporting Biden. 

Well, they were republicans after all.  But you gave credence to the former Bush administration person who you said ".. has long maintained that the two most despicable people he knew in Washington were Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden.".    To me it doesn't sound like this super pac thought that and they were insiders in the Bush administration as well.     

I acknowledge the broadcaster a right to express his opinions.

Obviously there's despicable people in Washington during any administration.  But the Bush administration performed dreadfully during hurricane Katrina, had issues with interrogation (torture?), and they lead us into a war that took over 20 years to disengage from to name a few highlights.

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toomuchbaloney said:

 I imagine more may be inclined that way should Trump actually win the GOP nomination. 

History doesn't prove that.  You may remember me long complaining and being baffled by republican silence about Trump's antics.  Mostly because he was passing an agenda they could agree with, but also because they were afraid too.  Republicans like Cheney paid the price by losing her job and the candidates today are being booed.  But I do hope that you're right that Republicans don't get behind Trump should he get the nomination.   

It seemed just a while back his numbers were 38% of the republican vote.  Now it's at 50% and better than the 11 ish other contenders combined.

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No one in Trump's current polling position in the modern era has lost an open presidential primary that didn't feature an incumbent. He's pulling in more than 50% of support in the national primary polls, I.e., more than all his competitors combined.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/politics/trump-second-term-president-election-2024/index.html

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Tweety said:

... But I do hope that you're right that Republicans don't get behind Trump should he get the nomination. ...

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In the absence of a viable third party candidate or, in the minds of most Republicans a more palatable Democratic candidate than Mr. Biden, I suspect most Republicans will support Mr. Trump, should he be the Republican nominee.

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chare said:

In the absence of a viable third party candidate or, in the minds of most Republicans a more palatable Democratic candidate than Mr. Biden, I suspect most Republicans will support Mr. Trump, should he be the Republican nominee.

I agree.

I'm not a Republican, and don't want Trump to run.  But I'll vote for him over Biden, and likely any other Democrat that's on the radar right now.

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Tweety said:

Well, they were republicans after all.  But you gave credence to the former Bush administration person who you said ".. has long maintained that the two most despicable people he knew in Washington were Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden.".    To me it doesn't sound like this super pac thought that and they were insiders in the Bush administration as well.     

I acknowledge the broadcaster a right to express his opinions.

Obviously there's despicable people in Washington during any administration.  But the Bush administration performed dreadfully during hurricane Katrina, had issues with interrogation (torture?), and they lead us into a war that took over 20 years to disengage from to name a few highlights.

I don't really understand your point.  They were never-Trumpers.  They thought Biden is the lesser evil.  Many voted that way.

I only mentioned the host I listen to was a under secretary Bush administration because that qualified him as someone who had been around lots of those people.

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