President Biden thread

3 hours ago, Tweety said:

I am the same way and occasionally people point out that I'm doing what I criticize.  

My main point is someone was talking about the lie that Trump won the election and your response was "Or the total truth that an officer at the capital died from blunt force trauma with a fire extinguisher? Or that Nick Sandman was a little MAGA supremacist? Oh and "Russian collusion"?. ....."  

No matter what your agenda was in that statement it had nothing to do with the topic of the lie of Trump winning the election.  

But carry on.  Like I've said many times here over the years, it's an issue that I have.  When Trump won the election people deflected to Obama all the time, so it's a long standing issue with me.  You can ignore it.  TMB does.  LOL

I'll have to go back and look closer to at comments I made. Does sound like deflection. I think maybe I was referring to the inaccurate reports by left news sources reporting about the officer and the child. Where as TMB was talking about Trumps lies. 

17 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No. Maybe you don't know what a strawman argument is but it has a specific definition.  Yes, you may believe or think what you want but I won't allow you to put words in my mouth without pushing back. 

Yes, Trump was treated differently because he was the least qualified, most dishonest and corrupt president of your lifetime. 

I did not put words on your mouth. I guess I would say I will not allow you to demonize, devalue and dismiss any conservative opinion in which you do not agree. I do know what a straw man argument is and also know that it can become the " strawman " itself. 

I gave an opinion of how I think you believe based on the type of vocabulary you use you describe not only Trump but the entire Republican party. 

It's no secret that you destain Republican's not just Trump and have made comments alluding to them and their voters as "dangerous" and a threat to our democratic republic. 

If that's "putting words in your mouth" then perhaps you should become more aware of your actually words because that is the impression you demonstrate. In my opinion of course. 

However itsvrefreshing to see that you agree he was/is treated differently. 

36 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:

I did not put words on your mouth. I guess I would say I will not allow you to demonize, devalue and dismiss any conservative opinion in which you do not agree. I do know what a straw man argument is and also know that it can become the " strawman " itself. 

I gave an opinion of how I think you believe based on the type of vocabulary you use you describe not only Trump but the entire Republican party. 

It's no secret that you destain Republican's not just Trump and have made comments alluding to them and their voters as "dangerous" and a threat to our democratic republic. 

If that's "putting words in your mouth" then perhaps you should become more aware of your actually words because that is the impression you demonstrate. In my opinion of course. 

However itsvrefreshing to see that you agree he was/is treated differently. 

Don't you treat habitual liars and cheats differently in your personal life? Most of us do. 

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Well, it's nothing but predictable as evidenced by the response above that we've heard 999 times already. 

I happen to think it's fair to complain about Biden.  Just because Trump was President doesn't mean you don't get to complain about Biden.  

Sure, he can complain about Biden.  I am simply going to remind him that he ignored the same or worse from Trump over and over with nary a peep of complaint.  The new found standards are worth mentioning... each time.

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Sure, he can complain about Biden.  I am simply going to remind him that he ignored the same or worse from Trump over and over with nary a peep of complaint.  The new found standards are worth mentioning... each time.

But in turn you conveniently ignore what Biden does under the guise it's not as bad as Trump, shoot down the person saying it, and shoot down the source, and contribute nothing to the conversation....each time.  You don't practice what you preach.   

Carry on though.  No one can tell you how to post.  Trump was a horrible president. 

7 minutes ago, Tweety said:

But in turn you conveniently ignore what Biden does under the guise it's not as bad as Trump, shoot down the person saying it, and shoot down the source, and contribute nothing to the conversation....each time.  You don't practice what you preach.   

Carry on though.  No one can tell you how to post.  Trump was a horrible president. 

Nah, I don't ignore it, Biden's weaknesses are apparent... first and foremost being his advanced age.  He is, however, surrounded by competent people who are much more inclined to governing than grifting, which remains a huge improvement.  The larger threat to our republic is this Trump movement which is based in lies about our democratic processes. There must be accountability.

8 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Nah, I don't ignore it, Biden's weaknesses are apparent... first and foremost being his advanced age.  He is, however, surrounded by competent people who are much more inclined to governing than grifting, which remains a huge improvement.  The larger threat to our republic is this Trump movement which is based in lies about our democratic processes. There must be accountability.

Sonny Perdue faces ethics questions over his business holdings - POLITICOtrump 

Who Is Wilbur Ross? How Did He Assist President Trump? (investopedia.com)

Only two of the dogs who "served" (themselves!) while in the cabinet.  Of course, Jared wins with 2 billion from the Saudis.  Remember them?  The ones that crashed planes on 9/11 and chopped up Kashoggi.  

3 hours ago, subee said:

Sonny Perdue faces ethics questions over his business holdings - POLITICOtrump 

Who Is Wilbur Ross? How Did He Assist President Trump? (investopedia.com)

Only two of the dogs who "served" (themselves!) while in the cabinet.  Of course, Jared wins with 2 billion from the Saudis.  Remember them?  The ones that crashed planes on 9/11 and chopped up Kashoggi.  

You mean the Saudis that Biden is going to see with his hat in his hand to ask for more oil production?  The Saudis that Obama bowed in front of?  those Saudis?

The same one that Trump received the highest Saudi medal from?  Those Saudi's?  

Forget everything I said about deflection.  If you can't beat them, join them.

Anyone long for the days when the offense of the year was appearing to bow instead of overthrowing an election?

About Biden and Saudi Arabia.

The relationship with Saudi Arabia with it's trillion dollar oil fields has always been a tricky one.  They have oil, but also despite them being Muslim and Arab they have been an ally even though we support Israel.  They've bought billions in US Military equipment.   Their human rights issues make it difficult when we need them, their cash and their oil or at least their participation in keeping prices reasonable.  It's not a country we'd like as an enemy.

We have similar issues with China and their human rights issues.

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Officials have said Biden approved the trip after some initial reluctance at the prospect of backing off his promise to make Saudi Arabia pay a price for its role in the grisly 2018 murder of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Some of the President’s allies in Congress have criticized a trip and in particular a meeting with Prince Mohammed, the kingdom’s day-to-day ruler.

Biden had been hesitant to engage Prince Mohammed, determining early in his tenure that he would speak only to the crown prince’s father, King Salman, who is 86 years old and in failing health. The White House said in February 2021 that Biden was looking to “recalibrate” relations with Riyadh, including by shunning the crown prince, whom US intelligence agencies have deemed responsible for Khashoggi’s killing.

But Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, a global spike in energy prices and a growing nuclear threat from Iran have scrambled the global calculus. And now Biden has determined it is necessary to warm ties with a longtime US partner in the Middle East.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/14/politics/biden-trip-to-saudi-arabia-and-israel/index.html

6 hours ago, Tweety said:

The same one that Trump received the highest Saudi medal from?  Those Saudi's?  

Forget everything I said about deflection.  If you can't beat them, join them.

Anyone long for the days when the offense of the year was appearing to bow instead of overthrowing an election?

 

Welcome to the dark deflection side! LOL ?