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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

6 hours ago, Beerman said:

So, despite any evidence to support it, and plenty to the contrary, you're still sticking to your statement?:

"There has been been evidence of Biden's stutter all through his public speaking life, maybe you didn't notice before he became the focus of partisan animosity."

I'm not sure why you're repeating the false claim that I am equating Biden's stutter with his mental decline.  

I'm repeating that you are equating the stutter with decline because you mentioned the stutter and asked if it was evidence of decline previously and you continue to highlight the stutter at every opportunity...a Tucker Carlson strategy. 

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5 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

 I'm repeating that you are equating the stutter with decline because you mentioned the stutter and asked if it was evidence of decline previously and you continue to highlight the stutter at every opportunity...a Tucker Carlson strategy. 

More deflection, and more inaccurate description of my statements.

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3 hours ago, subee said:

Trump is the first president who, in public, has ridiculed people for physical handicaps so why would Biden's stutter even be mentioned in a Google search of Biden previous to the Trump presidency.  It was Trump and Sean Hannity who started the big lie that his stutter is made up.  It only takes a modicum of curiosity and a computer to dig up the real story.  Oh, BTW, has anyone seen the Trump Guide for Kids that Mike Huckebee has developed.  Trumpbundle.thekidsguide.com.  Can't make it up!  Good use of the tactics of the Hitler Youth Group.

His stutter became news in 2008.  As a reminder, that was way before Trump was president.  So, that kinda blows your theory out of the water, doesn't it?

I'm not aware of Trump or Hannity saying such things.  Doesn't matter.  We still don't have any reason to 100% believe that Biden ever had a stutter as a child or adult.

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

More deflection, and more inaccurate description of my statements.

That's because I think you are whining. 

 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

That's because I think you are whining. 

 

 

No reseaonable person could conclude I was equating his stutter to his cognitive abilities.  I said more than once I haven't witnessed his stutter, and am somewhat skeptical of his childhood story.  To which you implied that I was not astute enough to recognize his stutter.  That thought seems to contradict what youre saying now.  

 

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59 minutes ago, Beerman said:

 

No reseaonable person could conclude I was equating his stutter to his cognitive abilities.  I said more than once I haven't witnessed his stutter, and am somewhat skeptical of his childhood story.  To which you implied that I was not astute enough to recognize his stutter.  That thought seems to contradict what youre saying now.  

 

In fact, apparently you aren't astute enough, since that's where you want this discussion to go.  You are the one questioning whether or not he stutters preferring, apparently, to believe that he's lying about that for some personal gain (like bone spurs maybe) because you either can't or won't accept the evidence of a stutter. It's insulting to have a health professional minimize the significance of a stutter in a person's life, as you have done, because of some political beliefs.  

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I don't think I would question whether or not Biden has a stutter.  Stutters are manifested in different ways, especially when someone has overcome them.  Clearly if it's something he made up all those years ago he'd have been exposed by now.  I believe he has or had a stutter.

Also, as my best friend says "he's not as sharp as he used to be".  We want to cover up his gaffes with "it's his stutter" which may not be accurate.  Also saying "he has dementia with obvious cognitive decline and is unfit for President" isn't fair either.

He's a 79 year old man and looks it and acts it.  Personally it's not a look want for a President.  That's ageism perhaps and I'll think about that.   But I still think he's totally competent and has experience enough for the job.  I'd rather he not run for re-election but Harris isn't electable, at least that's how I feel now.  

I think that is some of the fascination with Zelensky of Ukraine, he's young, vibrant, healthy and can don a military uniform and rifle and inspire people.   That's the image of a President I would like to see...male or female (I.e. the former Ms. Ukraine that is inspiring with her joining the military campaign).  

 

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5 hours ago, Tweety said:

I don't think I would question whether or not Biden has a stutter.  Stutters are manifested in different ways, especially when someone has overcome them.  Clearly if it's something he made up all those years ago he'd have been exposed by now.  I believe he has or had a stutter.

Also, as my best friend says "he's not as sharp as he used to be".  We want to cover up his gaffes with "it's his stutter" which may not be accurate.  Also saying "he has dementia with obvious cognitive decline and is unfit for President" isn't fair either.

He's a 79 year old man and looks it and acts it.  Personally it's not a look want for a President.  That's ageism perhaps and I'll think about that.   But I still think he's totally competent and has experience enough for the job.  I'd rather he not run for re-election but Harris isn't electable, at least that's how I feel now.  

I think that is some of the fascination with Zelensky of Ukraine, he's young, vibrant, healthy and can don a military uniform and rifle and inspire people.   That's the image of a President I would like to see...male or female (I.e. the former Ms. Ukraine that is inspiring with her joining the military campaign).  

 

I wasn't questioning whether he had it or not as much as I was trying to point out to certain  people that it hasn't been present during his public life like they seem to believe.  Theyve heard of it, and think theyve witnessed it, but there is no evidence they have seen it.  The evidence there is runs contrary to what they think they saw.  

I didn't think it was that big a deal.  They've been wrong before.  I expected them just to go on with their usually smugness, deflective comments, and lack of humility.  But, apparently,  the realization that they were so wrong put a few over the edge.  My words started being mischaractorized and lies told about what I said.

At least the true colors of some were seen by others.

Time to move on.

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Soooo, the jobs report this week was pretty good. 

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The one constant of the American reaction to the war in Ukraine so far has been bipartisanship.

Democratic and Republican politicians as distant politically as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) or Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) agree on not sending troops into Ukraine, refusing Ukrainian requests to police a no-fly zone there and banning Russian oil even if it raises prices for Americans.

A number of Republican lawmakers also have been giving Biden small doses of praise for how he’s handled sanctions, at least since the invasion began. Yet there are some Republicans trying to tease apart a relatively small aspect of Biden’s response — the United States’ reliance on Russian oil — to see if he could be politically vulnerable there.

“I think there’s broad support for the president in what he’s doing now,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said last week in a news conference. “Our biggest complaint is, what took him so long?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/07/why-biden-is-getting-some-praise-republicans-his-handling-ukraine/?fbclid=IwAR3wCJFRe4-wVOjPV52AYccmWanBN0JIsJihmloNNmUu1VAcKhZGQ5Pe_So

It's nice to see some unity on some issues after Afghanistan.  

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11 minutes ago, Tweety said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/07/why-biden-is-getting-some-praise-republicans-his-handling-ukraine/?fbclid=IwAR3wCJFRe4-wVOjPV52AYccmWanBN0JIsJihmloNNmUu1VAcKhZGQ5Pe_So

It's nice to see some unity on some issues after Afghanistan.  

Unity...maybe.  It's pretty clear by now that the Republican party is no longer led by Mitch McConnell even though he may be the official mouthpiece.

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