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Practice on each other?

Just curious about something. I've seen pictures of nursing students practicing injections (and other things) on each other. Does your school do that? I think it's a bit odd...like it would be too much of a liability.

Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in OR, education.

Many many schools have moved away from the practice of invasive skills such as injections and IV starts on fellow students. However, many still require students to perform physical assessments on each other, with the exception of breast/genital exams. My school recommended sports bras and bike shorts, but we spent pretty much an entire semester in gowns with our fellow students.

BostonFNP, APRN

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

As above, most program have moved away from invasive procedures on classmates. Many schools use sim dummies for this.

Physical exam still needs to be done on a training partner.

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NurseGirl525, ASN, RN

Specializes in ICU.

We do assessments and vitals on each other. We do not do injections or IV starts on each other. Although we did administer eye drops to each other. Just wetting drops. You have to start somewhere.

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

I think it's a bit odd...like it would be too much of a liability.
The paperwork signed by students upon admission relieves the school of liability for certain occurrences, such as practicing skills on each other.

RunBabyRN

Specializes in L&D, infusion, urology.

We did some, like IVs, injections and physical assessments. However, anything involving needles was first performed on practice arms or pads.

We don't, but I think it is a little unfair to the patients that our first stick ever on a real person is on a paying client. I am sure the AIDS epidemic, etc in the 80's put an end to schools allowing student nurses to practice on each other. I think it would be good experience. Those rubber arms are not really the same. I just did this skill this week and would have been cool with practicing on each other.

Health Assessment is kind of limited when we are doing these assessments with our clothes on etc. I try to work with other guys and we take our shirts off etc to make it as real as possible.

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

I am sure the AIDS epidemic, etc in the 80's put an end to schools allowing student nurses to practice on each other.

This was untrue in my situation. I was born in '81, the year that AIDS was identified. The Los Angeles area practical/vocational nursing program that I attended in '04/'05 required us students to practice sticks on each other. 2005 was more than two decades after the AIDS epidemic first surfaced.

We practiced on each other. I had a classmate with a bad habit of saying oops for everything. Not something you want to hear after being poked.

LPN709

Specializes in LTC.

In my Lpn program we practiced on each other :) not much but for our IV therapy class I know I got stuck at least 5-6 times. It was fun though!

rob4546, ADN, BSN

Specializes in ICU.

We practiced everything on each other except genital exams and foleys. I even let a fellow student try to drop a NG tube on me in class. I wanted to know how it felt before I had to do it on one of my patients.

We had to have a successful IV start on a classmate before we were signed off to do this in the field. Waivers were signed by all, without complaints.

rubato, ASN, RN

Specializes in Oncology/hematology.

We did, and thank god! Practicing venipuncture on a fake arm doesn't prepare you for a vein that moves, and a person that jumps as soon as you poke them. Or someone who is afraid. It is an important aspect of nursing school, in my opinion. I let almost everyone in my class stick me for their first time because I have amazing veins. Then, they moved on to harder people.

KelRN215, BSN, RN

Specializes in Pedi.

Just curious about something. I've seen pictures of nursing students practicing injections (and other things) on each other. Does your school do that? I think it's a bit odd...like it would be too much of a liability.

How is it a liability? Everyone in the program is an adult and agrees to participate.

We practiced injections on each other but not IVs. We gave each other IM Normal Saline. When we all needed TDAP boosters because of a pertussis outbreak at our pediatric clinical site, we gave them to each other too.

Also, I went to school long AFTER the AIDS epidemic began, 2002-2007 and we still gave each other injections. I'm not sure why AIDS would put an end to student nurses practicing on each other. You assume all blood is infected when practicing universal precautions so would take the same precautions with your fellow student who is HIV negative as you would with a patient who is HIV positive.

We weren't allowed to practice IVs or injections on each other either d/t stated liability. However, found out when my sister attended the MA program at the same CC, they were allowed to practice blood draws & injections on each other. I'm guessing her instructor just disregarded the "liability".

studentnursemon86

Specializes in ER/Emergency Behavioral Health....

I remember when I took a phlebotomy class we practiced on each other. 8 years later in an ADN program, we are practicing injections on oranges and IV starts on fake arms.

Everline

Specializes in public health, women's health, reproductive health.

We were not allowed to practice on each other with the exception of vital signs. People did it. But not on school property.

My nursing class practiced iv starts on one another as well as our skills lab instructor. I've heard that the program has since done away with practicing on students however, as have all the other local nursing programs.

I don't know about nursing classes yet but as for my AEMT class, we practiced most things on each other. IV starts, IM, Sub Q, inter nasal....most things. It definitely helps because like stated before, I don't think it's fair that our first attempt on a real person is someone who is sick/hurt/scared...start it on people that know it's coming and are willing to accept it. A real arm is night/day different then the fake dummy arms.

That Guy, BSN, RN, EMT-B

Specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab.

We had to have a successful IV start on a classmate. We gave IM injections to each other. We did SubQ and ID as well. We did exams ( minus genital and breasts ). It was only a few years ago too. Nothing to shake up your nerves like dropping an 18 in your instructor!

Glycerine82, ASN, LPN

Specializes in SNF/Rehab/Geri.

I did this in school for Medical Assisting about 10 years ago. We gave each other saline injections and PPDs, drew blood on each other, as well as EKG's and finger sticks.

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