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PPE concerns as we return

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ruby_jane has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing.

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I've had the opportunity to attend some DYNAMITE Zoom/remote conferences during this time. So, here's what I worry about for fall (because I really hope we're back in the fall!)

We will need PPE for what I call the viral rebound (and realistically for flu season).

We will need to put masks on anyone who's coughing (in case). Surgical would be best. Cloth won't do much.

We will need some kind of PPE to don, just in case. Surgical masks and a full face shield (reusable, cleanable) will likely do it for us. N95s would be a dream but still you'd need goggles/eye protection.

NOW - where are we getting all these things?? My budget at the elementary was $150. For the year. For 600 bebes.

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I've requested N95/face shields. How this would be administered depends much on whether there ends up being any quick tests for COVID available. Either way, we'd isolate a kid and use full PPE until determining by test (or if not available, simple temperature and other signs).

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CanIcallmymom has 4 years experience.

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I have the same concerns. I would like a gown, N95, and face shield as well. But that's a lot of money when all is said and done. Our school asked us how many gloves we foresee using a week and mentioned trying to find masks, but I just don't see it happening--which I'm not sure how I feel about it.

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Gloves I have. I didn't have any masks or isolation gowns when we shut down. I'm hoping the supplies won't be as hard to come by when we open back up. They're still saying May 15 but the latest article I read here says that the peak isn't projected now until mid-June. Hopefully, we'll have to August to resolve this, but I have to be prepared either way.

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Flare is a ASN, BSN and specializes in school nursing, ortho, trauma.

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my supt and I discussed giving my cache of supplies to the effort collecting for hospitals. At the end of the day he collected all of the face shields and gloves from other departments and left my stuff alone. I didn't have an abundance anyhow. But we discussed last week about how the office will manage when we get back. It can't be business as usual. A student (or staff member, for that matter) presenting with a cough and fever has to be treated like they may have covid. This means isolation in the office until picked up and then thorough cleaning. We have the electrostatic sanitizers, so that should be a pretty quick task. But this also means that not only is my office unavailable, but I am as well. We had a serious discussion about hiring a second RN. Maybe it'll actually go somewhere this time.

But to get back to the original point, school's shouldn't reopen until they can safely care for potentially infected individuals. I think I got an email last week from school heath saying that they have supplies. If you're looking that's where I'd start.

Good luck to all my SN virtual co-workers. We're (still) all in this together.

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BrisketRN has 4 years experience as a BSN, RN.

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My principal is asking me how many surgical masks and N95 masks I'd need when we return to school. Private school, parent company is looking into supplying. I honestly have no idea. I previously had a box of 50 surgical masks that was never touched until COVID.

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scuba nurse has 30 years experience as a BSN, MSN, RN.

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we had to donate all our supplies of gloves , masks, wipes, and our thermometers, and O2 sensors to our local city. we have none of these supplies and will need a ton of them in order to open in the fall. my district has 45 schools and over 25 k students. I hope they fix the budget for the this!

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k1p1ssk has 9 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in pediatrics.

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Who supplies PPE for outside contractors at your school? We have a nurse who is hired by the student's family who provides care during the day. Is she responsible to provide her own PPE for caring for that student, or is the district?

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Her "employer" is required by law to provide it.   It would very much depend on what the contractual arrangements are.

 

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amoLucia specializes in LTC.

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to k1p1 & Betty - what happens if 'pvt nurse' calls out? Who then is resp for care, esp on short notice? What if nurse or student becomes ill mid-day?  

What a 'sticky wicket" for you guys!!

As always, my respect for y'all. Stay safe. Stay strong. 

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Again, it would depend on just who the employer is.    It's not very common that the patient contracts directly with the nurse.

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k1p1ssk has 9 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in pediatrics.

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23 hours ago, amoLucia said:

to k1p1 & Betty - what happens if 'pvt nurse' calls out? Who then is resp for care, esp on short notice? What if nurse or student becomes ill mid-day?  

What a 'sticky wicket" for you guys!!

As always, my respect for y'all. Stay safe. Stay strong. 

Our situation is unique as there are siblings in the district who both have 1:1 nurses and instructional aides. The family is doing the district a solid and paying for one of the two nurses. If the nurse is sick, the student doesn't come to school unless a sub is found. If the student is sick, that nurse doesn't come to the school, and usually provides homecare; However, the district provided nurse would remain at the school and help the office nurse or has to take a sick day herself.

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