I saw a post asking why no one responded to the OP's other posts and it got me thinking. I should point out that this has NOTHING to do with her(?) posts other than it started the gears turning, but when I see a post written in txt, I shut it down and move on. If I see a post with a paragraph-and-a-half and no punctuation in it, I move on. If English is your second language, of course people will make allowances. But if you were raised with it, I make none.
I know it's expedient to use shortcuts. I know we're used to it because of the texting we do. That does not make it okay here. I got wall post on Facebook from an old boyfriend and I couldn't even read it because he refuses to spell things correctly. (Really, that's the only reason. )
If you want help, if you want to be taken seriously, IF YOU WANT GOOD GRADES, start using standard English. Please. Use proper grammar. Use punctuation, even if you're not sure if you're using the right ones. TRY. You can txt all you want in your off-time, but here, and at school or work, you need to communicate in a way that other people understand without having to translate. You will have to write papers in class. You will do a LOT of writing. If it's unintelligible, your grade will reflect that. It's in your own best interest, honestly.
Best of luck to you all. I hope you get accepted and shine in your programs,
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
QUOTE=Argo;4332790. . ]Check your grammar before you slam on others for using PROPER english.
I think the complaint was pretty specifically directed at text speak. I think we as readers owe the writer enough attention to the meaning of the written words if it's obvious that care was taken to choose the appropriate words in the first place.
I think that the few posts written with text-style abbreviations are part of the category of style-ized writing, and the author knows they aren't sending a text message. Other forms I've seen are a paragraph long run-on sentence separated ...by..dots.........why.....i...dont....know and randomly capitalized letters as in radiOlogy dePt (ack!) This is very appropriate for your high school yearbook and passing notes in class. When I was in HS dotting an I with a circle or heart was really cool.
If your post is asking a question that the answer to most likely comes from someone older and in a professional capacity, you come across as either not very bright or not very interested in a variety of answers.
But couldn't most of these problems be solved if the author asks him or herself who the intended readers and/or responders are on allnurses? If it was supposed to be a super-serious no fun place where we live in fear of having our knuckles rapped by the grammar police why can we add to the post? I probably wouldn't put a row of those in a post asking for input on the best strategies to complete my DNP, but some of our really crazy threads that help me end a stressful day with a good laugh are a god-send! They are absolutely loaded with "kindas" and "see yas" and fun colors and fonts, too!
A message board isn't a message board without a grammar thread every six months or so! Gotta love 'em!
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
i've been flamed for this in the past, but i agree with the poster who said that if your written communication skills aren't professional, i don't want to hear about how your colleagues or your manager is "mean", "picking on you" or "eating their young." (in fact, i don't want to hear about "eating their young" period! whoever coined that phrase did nursing a great disservice!) someone who has no grasp of spelling, punctuation or grammar can be assumed to be unprofessional in their verbal communication as well, so all of those "mean people" who tell them they need to improve are right!
If anyone looks at the nurses notes in their places of employment I guarantee you there are tons of mistakes,and yet the nurses are competent.
Speaking of texting(and this may be unrelated)don't we as nurses use symbols such as the triangle for "changed" and the plus sign(+) for "and"?
Does that make us lazy when we use symbols instead of writing the word out?
For me personally I find the triangle symbol especially annoying,and they look unprofessional in documentation.
It's contextual, those are standard medical abbreviations, and by the way the triangle is a chemistry abbreviation, it's delta, and is used to signify a change. As many different kinds of health care professionals take a good deal of chemistry, it seems to have bled over from there.
If abbreviations are understood by the community, then they're fine. What is being expressed on this thread is that text speak is not understood by or welcomed by a good percentage of this community.
Specializes in PACU, CARDIAC ICU, TRAUMA, SICU, LTC.
No, I don't know.
Sorry, I have to fully agree with the OP. While I do not expect perfect grammar and punctuation, I do expect reasonably understandable English.
I do not text. I do not accept text messages. And my child does not text. If it is that important, it rates being fully/clearly communicated.
And when I see people using texting, or poor/lazy communication habits on this BB, especially when complaining about "mean nurse directors/fellow nurses/human resource personnel/teachers" that are so hard on them, I automatically click off. If one does not have the common courtesy of communicating like a professional, I see very little need to answer a professional question or waste bandwidth on giving professional advice.
I used to be more relaxed and answer everything politely and professionally. But over the years, I have learned that the posters that communicate poorly or use meaningless phrases/slang, are generally the least appreciative of good advice and more of drain on the regular posters. Thus, I avoid those posters until they improve their communication.
YA KNOW!?!?!
A person after my own heart...I do not text, nor do I accept them, either. Incorrect spelling and poor grammar are my pet peeves. I went to Catholic school for 13 years; need I say more?
A person after my own heart...I do not text, nor do I accept them, either. Incorrect spelling and poor grammar are my pet peeves. I went to Catholic school for 13 years; need I say more?
Catholic school is no guarantee of anything. In my neighborhood, the Catholic school was the one students, who were already expelled from the public school, couldn't get kicked out of as long as their parents paid the tuition.
But I'm glad you feel you received a quality education.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
I just can't believe no one has commented on the "dis" and "dat" used for this and that. THIS is what drives ME up the wall!
I know those upset people because a few days ago I read a thread where the OP must have been pretty seriously messed up for using "de" and "da". It appeared that half the posts had been removed, with a few stern warnings and vague references left behind like tendrils of smoke after a nasty battle. :):):)
Do you mind if I copy this???
Also, some folks use thier phones to "allnurse" so maybe they need a few short cuts.......
I like that-- a new verb! Me to kids, "hold on a minute, I'm allnursing right now."
Too, too funny. I printed this out yesterday (without the title) and passed it around at a family gathering. Almost everyone got it eventually, but a few of them took a couple of minutes. The common sentiment (even among the frequent texters) was that texting is just plain irritating when done in the wrong arena. BTW, everyone thought this was hilarious.
I view text speak the same way I see holes in someone's clothing. Yeah, the important parts are still covered, but it isn't usually pleasant to look at.
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I think the complaint was pretty specifically directed at text speak. I think we as readers owe the writer enough attention to the meaning of the written words if it's obvious that care was taken to choose the appropriate words in the first place.
I think that the few posts written with text-style abbreviations are part of the category of style-ized writing, and the author knows they aren't sending a text message. Other forms I've seen are a paragraph long run-on sentence separated ...by..dots.........why.....i...dont....know and randomly capitalized letters as in radiOlogy dePt (ack!) This is very appropriate for your high school yearbook and passing notes in class. When I was in HS dotting an I with a circle or heart was really cool.
If your post is asking a question that the answer to most likely comes from someone older and in a professional capacity, you come across as either not very bright or not very interested in a variety of answers.
But couldn't most of these problems be solved if the author asks him or herself who the intended readers and/or responders are on allnurses? If it was supposed to be a super-serious no fun place where we live in fear of having our knuckles rapped by the grammar police why can we add
to the post? I probably wouldn't put a row of those in a post asking for input on the best strategies to complete my DNP, but some of our really crazy threads that help me end a stressful day with a good laugh are a god-send! They are absolutely loaded with "kindas" and "see yas" and fun colors and fonts, too!
I do.