I guess if it works it works, but it seems bassackwards to me. Are there direct entry FNP programs or just management type?
AFAIK, there are direct-entry MSN programs for all the advanced practice roles except CRNA and NNP (which require clinical experience to be considered eligible for admission).
Congrats, you are now a MASTER of Nursing. Now, when you pass the NCLEX, you can actually do something nursy, like give your very first tylenol. SMH! I did not know things like this existed.
Congrats, you are now a MASTER of Nursing. Now, when you pass the NCLEX, you can actually do something nursy, like give your very first tylenol. SMH! I did not know things like this existed.
They've been around for ~30 yrs at least. They are all over the country, and v. popular. I'm not a big fan of the idea, either, but I've never heard of any evidence that graduates of the programs are any less safe or competent than graduates of conventional programs.
If I am not right for this forum and should be banned or something, they have moderators that make decisions about that.
Maybe you should stay in your lane.
Just let it go (haha is the Disney song stuck in your head now?)
Well I'm jumping in the thread because
1. I'm about to start classes and I'm nervous so this helps.
2. It was an amusing thread.
3. I think my comment might be helpful.
My comment is, I agree with people who said your MSN isn't going to be very useful because you have no experience. I have begun to obtain a deeper understanding of the importance in getting your foot in the door, while you're still in school, so if you're doing an intense acceleration program, that won't be easy.
Plus once you do get your RN, the hospital you work for might help reimburse you if you go back to get your MSN.
Since you are an older person now, it might seem the long boring way, but getting your ADN first I think is going to help you more especially if you get some hospital volunteering or work in while you are in school.
My upper classmates in the (BSN) nursing program are working as PCT's (student nurses). They have a good advantage over an MSN who's never worked as a nurse.
Congrats, you are now a MASTER of Nursing. Now, when you pass the NCLEX, you can actually do something nursy, like give your very first tylenol. SMH! I did not know things like this existed.
There are 10,000 ways to become a nurse or an NP. One of the most annoying things about it, IMNSHO. I like the idea of requiring clinical experience as an RN before becoming an NP... I'm doing my NP in psych and even though the jobs are totally different (one of the reasons people sometimes give for why direct entry is OK) the experience I gained from working inpatient psych has been invaluable in what I do (what hypomania vs mania look like, which meds are really the worst for weight gain, etc).
We have a few people in my class who have no nursing or psych background and a year into the program you can pick them out of a discussion because they're still trying to catch up. All but one of them is still shadowing while the rest of us see patients on our own... it's a pretty stark difference. But, it's an n of 3 in a class of 11, so take it with a pinch of salt. :)
But, the BA she has is irrevelant. This lady (I assume she's a lady since she must be a lady because only ladies want to be nurses) has zero nursing experience therefore what good will a glossy new MSN be? Would you hire her over an experienced RN? She doesn't even know if she'll like nursing or be able to develop the critical interpersonal skill this job demands.
I'm curious about something, OP: you took 7 years to get a BA (a 4-year degree)....what is it in? Do you work in that field? What about being an RN appeals to you now?
Have you been working in healthcare, which is how you know you not only are sure you want to become an RN....and are also sure of your ability to do so?
I'm not sure why some people are taking the "ladies" comment so seriously. Learn to sort through political incorrectness, grammatical/syntax errors, etc and just answer the OP's question. OP is asking for advice, yet others are choosing to hijack his thread and go off tangent on a minor detail that is irrelevant to the topic entirely. I'm a female and was not offended by the statement. Why? Because MANY people say "you guys," and I choose to interpret that as an all inclusive statement, rather than to take things personally.
To the OP, if you have a prior bachelors, I think it would be best to choose an Accelerated BSN route then get your Master's at a later time (the master's program may only look at your BSN GPA, but you will have to contact programs directly to get the most accurate information). If you go for an entry level's master's program now directly, they will look at your undergrad GPA which seems too low to get accepted. Otherwise, you can go the ADN route, then apply to a bridge program from ADN-MSN (those programs aren't as plentiful, but they're out there). Going ADN--BSN--MSN is too long of a process, and you're correct, NOT efficient.
Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
I'm not sure why some people are taking the "ladies" comment so seriously. Learn to sort through political incorrectness, grammatical/syntax errors, etc and just answer the OP's question. OP is asking for advice, yet others are choosing to hijack his thread and go off tangent on a minor detail that is irrelevant to the topic entirely. I'm a female and was not offended by the statement. Why? Because MANY people say "you guys," and I choose to interpret that as an all inclusive statement, rather than to take things personally.
To the OP, if you have a prior bachelors, I think it would be best to choose an accelerated BSN route then get your Master's at a later time (the master's program may only look at your BSN GPA, but you will have to contact programs directly to get the most accurate information). If you go for an entry level's master's program now directly, they will look at your undergrad GPA which seems too low to get accepted. Otherwise, you can go the ADN route, then apply to a bridge program from ADN-MSN (those programs aren't as plentiful, but they're out there). Going ADN--BSN--MSN is too long of a process, and you're correct, NOT efficient.
With their undergrad GPA of 2.5 admission to a reputable, accredited ABSN programming is going to be challenging to say the least. Most require a minimum 3.7+ cumulative not just in pre-requisite classes. And they look at your grades in your first degree as part of ABSN admissions. DE MSN programs are also highly competitive. It's not a simple answer. Of course for profit invested owned schools have less stringent admissions standards, lower NCLEX pass rates and higher tuition rates (with less financial aid and more financing/private loans)
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AFAIK, there are direct-entry MSN programs for all the advanced practice roles except CRNA and NNP (which require clinical experience to be considered eligible for admission).