Philippines produces more than 25,000 nurses a year!

Tweety, BSN, RN · Aug 11, 2006

Great post. You and your fellow Filipinos can be proud of the difference in the Global Community you have made, while helping your own lives. My place of employment would be very short staffed without the help of qualified Filipino nurses.

I only hope the standards remain high, without corruption, and good quality nurses with compassion for others continue to be produced and the nurses who only want a high paycheck, but don't care for people are weeded out.

tantrum · Aug 11, 2006

There could be more than 25,000. From the CHED record, they already have more than 292,000 Nursing students from more than 400 schools.

There were more than 40,000 examinees in the last Phil Board exam. Granted that only 17,000 made it, you can expect about the same number of passers sometime in December. So we are actually producing about 30,000 RN's per year. What about those who did not even bother to take the local boards?

I agree that there is an oversupply of nurses but they should check for quality and close down all schools with 0% passing. They are cheatin their students of a good Nursing education.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Aug 12, 2006

I agree that there is an oversupply of nurses but they should check for quality and close down all schools with 0% passing. They are cheatin their students of a good Nursing education.

I agree. I hope the standards remain high. It sounds to me that schools are popping up everywhere and spitting out students, taking their money, and taking advantage of the worldwide nursing shortage without concern for quality.

Also, I'm concerned that fixers out there are promising things and taking money from students and letting corrupt students through.

Also, concerned that everyone is jumping on the nursing bandwagon, without a real interest in nursing, but money.

I worked with six Filipino nurses fresh from the Philippines, and they all were excellent and well trained. As I said, you can be proud. The hoops to get through to the US and other countries seem to weed out the ones who can't cut it. :)

jmgrn65, RN · Aug 12, 2006

Well I may have one of the exceptions, she just started working about 3 weeks ago used to be a dentist, she didn't actually go to nursing school. But took some classes came here and passed state boards. She has no practical skills, doesn't know how to draw up injectable medicines, no clue what size syringe/needle to use, assessment skills are minimal listens to bowel sounds through blankets. She is learning fairly quick but it is like having a nursing student instead of new grad. It is just scary that she hasn't been to a nursing school but has a BSN I don't quite get it. It is going to take twice as long to orient/trian her because we are just about starting at scratch she is very smart, just doesn't have the skills.

tantrum · Aug 13, 2006

Well I may have one of the exceptions, she just started working about 3 weeks ago used to be a dentist, she didn't actually go to nursing school. But took some classes came here and passed state boards. She has no practical skills, doesn't know how to draw up injectable medicines, no clue what size syringe/needle to use, assessment skills are minimal listens to bowel sounds through blankets. She is learning fairly quick but it is like having a nursing student instead of new grad. It is just scary that she hasn't been to a nursing school but has a BSN I don't quite get it. It is going to take twice as long to orient/trian her because we are just about starting at scratch she is very smart, just doesn't have the skills.

This is one of those unfortunate cases. I'm also puzzled how you can get a BSN without going to a Nursing school. Most likely she took a lot of short-cuts and was able to pass NCLEX without going through CGFNS. If you are working in Ohio, do they require CES (full course credentialling) with CGFNS? Maybe she's one of those who fell thru the cracks as a CES would have investigated all her courses in Nursing school.

Daning · Aug 13, 2006

I think Ohio BON does not require CES anymore unlike other states. Although there are also some states who does like Florida.

As suzanne4 has mentioned in one of her posts, one doesn't need to pass local boards to get nclex. and a typical example is this dentist turned nurse case. well, some things like this just really happens. it's a bit "burden" to the hospital, especially to the staff she's working with, but it's also a great risk on her part. a simple mistake might just put her in jeopardy. so she really need to catch up fast in learning and developing the nursing skills in her.

suzanne4, RN · Aug 13, 2006

Unfortunately, there are some schools in the Philippines that are essentially selling diplomas, and the BSN comes along with it.

How in the heck can a student carry 55 credits in one term with many of the courses overlapping? And it is supposed to be an accelerated program?

I hope that one of these nurses has to care for one of the parents of these people that are only selling the title. And I hope that some of you do some further investigating and get them closed done.

Or many of you are going to find isues with trying to work in the US. There are already hospitals that are having second thoughts over some nurses from there because of the fraudulent degrees, and that is exactly what they are.

suzanne4, RN · Aug 13, 2006

And while we are on the subject, there also needs to be some investigating done of the owners of some of the review centers there that claim to have licenses in the US, and in several states, but no record of them can be found in said states.

I get more frustrated on a daily basis by the stories that I hear about. All it takes is a few bad apples to make it bad for everyone else, and the biggest problem is that the few are actually suceeding in doing just that. Thy do not care at all, but just about the money that they get and out in the bank. And will cheat to do just that.

mtreyes · Aug 14, 2006

And while we are on the subject, there also needs to be some investigating done of the owners of some of the review centers there that claim to have licenses in the US, and in several states, but no record of them can be found in said states.
I get more frustrated on a daily basis by the stories that I hear about. All it takes is a few bad apples to make it bad for everyone else, and the biggest problem is that the few are actually suceeding in doing just that. Thy do not care at all, but just about the money that they get and out in the bank. And will cheat to do just that.

I PERFECTLY AGREE WITH YOU.... THERE SHOULD BE A REAL-HONEST TO GOODNESS INVESTIGATION... NOT BY POLITICIANS BUT BY INDEPENDENT PEOPLE..... MAYBE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE ACADEME (NURSING)...

gemini_star, BSN, RN · Aug 14, 2006

It's so sad hearing those issues. People are getting greedy these days. Taking up nursing for the sole purpose of money and getting rich isn't the fastest and right way. We all have dreams of being a millionaire but it takes loads of hardwork. It is so unfair to people who study hard night and day, do all the process according to rules and especially those who have the heart to take care of patients. But most would do it the easier and faster way without having second thoughts of spending their money. Even their own dreams were neglected because they thought nursing = money would make them happier. Shame on them.

FutureUSRN · Aug 14, 2006

I think they will just use that to obtain a GC but eventually will not work as nurses (if don't fall in love with nursing). Filipinos are really good in finding loopholes. I am not advocating this kind of behavior, it is just that I find Filipinos are very wise in circumventing rules and policies.