People confusing and mixing titles

Nursing Students CNA/MA

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Hi room! I am happy to have input from anyone and everyone. My topic is about people around me who mix titles of healthcare professionals. We all have a role in healthcare. The moment we decide to take that first day of class/ training for what our goal is, we are important and vital to the community. But something puzzles me every time I go into work.

There seems to be a fad about becoming a nurse. Everyone is so unsure of what they want to study, so they immediately say nursing. It comes off as if that is a simple thing like saying you love someone so early and you haven't been giving enough time to sort out your feelings for a person. I try to be enthusiastic however, as well as supportive because I hated when people shut me down and told me "you know that's not easy, right?"

But back to the part about switching up titles of professions--I have friends who are siblings that work/ed with me at some point. One of them we'll call sister A, studied to be a medical assistant. The person who still works with me, let's call her sister B, is still very undecided. Now all of her group of friends at work are also in the same boat. They wanted to do nursing but keep changing to ultrasound, then cna, then so on and so forth , all the way back to nursing. So now, sister B is telling people who ask about her sister(A), what she is called now. She says to her friends, "She's a Nurse." That caught me a bit off guard because I already knew the answer. I knew that friends around her where going to continue on to ask about how to proceed if they were to take the nursing route....So I felt that as a person who is persuing my RN, and who has completed CNA training I would inform her that she is confused of her sister's title. Keep in mind that the girl who she was telling this to was one, if not my closest friend at work and was working for her RN as well at the same institution as me. I stated that her sister was in fact an MA, and that they are two different careers. She then replied that she meant to say MA, even though this wasn't the first occassion she has said this....She then said that CNAs are clearly not Nurses in comparison to MAs. My son sees several MAs at his Dr. They both play an important part in the basics of the basics in Nursing. Was I out of place to correct her? I am working hard, and know what I want, and to be told that what I have done was clearly no match to an MA. They are both important and upper level professionals and patients would suffer without them. I am not targetting anyone. Just wanting to educate people who want to become a part of the healthcare field.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Yeah in my case she called her sister a nurse. Several different times. I just feel wrong not correcting her because so many people at my work come to me and have everything all confused. Then they go off and do the opposite of the advise they constantly ask of me. Can't help some people I guess. I love helping my coworkers know about what I have been through already. But then they disregard it anyways. I'm the farthest of anyone else at my work pursuing an rn and am holding a 4.0 yet they come back and blame me that they failed anatomy while I told them not to overload.
Doesn't matter if they are calling themselves a nurse they are breaking the law.

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Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.

In your state of Georgia.....

Georgia

Chapter 26 of Title 43 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to nurses, is amended (2011) in Code Section 43-26-6, relating to the use of certain titles by licensed registered nurses or advanced practice registered nurses, by adding a new subsection to read as follows:

"(d) No person shall use the title 'nurse' or any other title or abbreviation that would represent to the public that a person is authorized to practice nursing unless the person is licensed or otherwise authorized under this article or Article 2 of this chapter."

Said chapter is further amended in Code Section 43-26-33, relating to the use of certain titles by licensed practical nurses or applicants, by adding a new subsection to read as follows:

"© No person shall use the title 'nurse' or any other title or abbreviation that would represent to the public that a person is authorized to practice nursing unless the person is licensed or otherwise authorized under this article or Article 1 of this chapter."

Specializes in PACU, pre/postoperative, ortho.

My husband's cousin recently completed a MA program. She constantly refers to herself as a nurse on FB, irritating me to no end. I've yet to say anything about it; we're not close & in different states. I've nearly commented on her posts but always back off, to keep the peace I guess (she's a piece of work to say the least & would likely be "offended" to be called out).

I don't see what the big deal is. People hold titles to high! Let her call herself what she pleases. She went through schooling as we all have !

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
A nurse is someone who has gone to an accredited nursing program and passed NCLEX...LPN or RN. A MA is not a nurse and it is illegal in most states to call oneself a nurse without the proper credentials and is punishable by law. I had this conversation recently at a physicians office as a patient with MA. I clarified it for her and reminded her that the BON would be very interested if she continued to call herself a nurse. She wasn't happy...but i was more unhappy with her attitude that she somehow was entitled to call herself a nurse and misrepresented herself as one to the uninformed public. I know I was "talked about" when I left but what is right is right.

This.

It is also reportable to the BON, at least in my state; there a few each quarter that call themselves "nurse" and end up ruining their career, especially if they thought about backing up that "nurse" title by actually going to school and becoming one.

Specializes in Hospice.
I don't see what the big deal is. People hold titles to high! Let her call herself what she pleases. She went through schooling as we all have !

I agree with you that some people do hold titles to high, for example, a MSN thinking that she is superior to an LPN. BUT, a medical assistant does not have the schooling that a LPN or RN has, he/she has not had to sit for the NCLEX, and does not hold a nursing license in their respective state.

This would be like a correctional officer saying he/she is a police officer. And I am not putting down correctional officers at all, each have a job to do and are trained differently, but it does not make one better than the other.

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
I don't see what the big deal is. People hold titles to high! Let her call herself what she pleases. She went through schooling as we all have !

However in many states it's illegal to call yourself a nurse when not a licensed nurse. The attorney general and board of nursing both care.

I don't see what the big deal is. People hold titles to high! Let her call herself what she pleases. She went through schooling as we all have !

But not nursing school, and she does not hold a nursing license. To me it's different if a patient's family yells "nurse" to grab attention of someone for a glass of water compared to an MA/PCT/CNA calling themselves "nurse" to other healthcare professions, on facebook, or when introducing themselves basically anywhere else. An MA may perform SOME of the same TASKS as an RN, but these are in no way to be confused with nursing SKILLS and knowledge that a licensed nurse possesses.

Specializes in LTC, Memory loss, PDN.

becoming a nurse, usually involves years of sacraficing

sleep, time with family, time for self and $$$

so when someone with a few weeks or even months

of technical training comes along and claims the title

it is bound to ruffle feathers

but how about taking it as a compliment

i believe the person who claims to be a nurse

wants to be like me, that person wants to have part

of what i have, they believe what i am is very desirable

i can live with that

Yes I can agree with that never looked at it that way ? I guess I just don't pay mind really in other peoples affairs or conversations so what they call themselves is on them really they know the real difference I don't need to remind them or belittle them

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Yes I can agree with that never looked at it that way dde0a I guess I just don't pay mind really in other peoples affairs or conversations so what they call themselves is on them really they know the real difference I don't need to remind them or belittle them

Ok, then what does one do when committing fraud??? Is a lit worse than "belittling" them. :blink:

And it comes down in finding out that someone else knows that someone is committing inch an act, some states will report the person as well through the BON, something to think about...

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

There is a distinction to be made here, as least on my humble opinion:

1. If a patient refers to an MA as a "nurse" I don say a word.

2. If a MA refers to himself as a nurse I speak up.

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