Non-compliance/medical neglect in a child with an open case with protective services

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I am at my absolute wits end with one of my cases. (I am a pedi home health nurse.)

This child is very complex, developmentally delayed, failure to thrive, G-tube dependent, aspiration, seizure disorder, chronic respiratory disease, etc. He was originally referred to my agency over a year ago for G-tube teaching. G-tube teaching kids are usually incredibly straight forward, get a handful of visits and are then discharged as long as they are gaining weight and their parents are able to manage their care. This child is still on service a year later because neither criteria has been met. He has had poor weight gain overall with periods of weight loss/gain. Every time he loses weight it somehow comes out that his mom isn't feeding him appropriately. He is on very straightforward G-tube feeds that any other parent I've ever dealt with in six years of being a pediatric nurse could manage. Three bolus feeds per day and continuous overnight feeds. Every time the MD changes his feed schedule, it takes me weeks to months to get the mother to understand how to do it. For example, the most recent changes involved changing his overnight feeds from 500 mL at 50 mL/hr to 600 mL at 60 mL/hr. Mother first thought that if she ran the feeds at 60 mL/hr but still set the volume at 500 that that would give him more. I finally got her to understand that running the feeds faster doesn't do anything. Then it took me at least a month to get her to understand that in order to give him 600 mL she needs to put more than two 250 mL cans of formula in the bag. She still doesn't do that consistently. I am constantly in touch with his doctor, social worker and worker with the state.

The bottom line is really that this family lacks the ability to care for a child this complex- his medical team and I are completely on the same page about that. BUT, the state is completely dragging its heels. We had a large team meeting over a month ago with all of his providers-MD, Social Worker, me, CPS worker and supervisor, Early Intervention providers and the workers who follow the mother's case. It seemed like it was a productive meeting but absolutely no progress has been made in the past month.

Two weeks ago, I was with him for three days teaching the mother how to crush a pill. I'm still not convinced that she can do that. This week, I went to see him on Wednesday and she hadn't given him any of his meds since Sunday because she "forgot" them at her sister's house. He is on critical medications- seizure meds and electrolyte supplements that it NOT ok for them to just "forget". Mom promised she would have them by day's end and we agreed that I would come back out today to check on the med situation. I tried to call her at least 10 times yesterday on 4 different phone numbers with no success. I was finally able to reach the father today and he confirmed that mom and the child were with him and that it was ok to come to his house. Less than 5 minutes after I spoke with him, the mother began calling me. I got 3 missed calls and a text message from her while I was with another patient. She then proceeded to tell me that I didn't need to come today because I just saw the child on Wednesday and that I couldn't see him until Wednesday because "that's when they'll be home."

There is not one single doubt in my mind that the reason that she didn't want me to see him today was because she still doesn't have his medication and has still not been giving it to him. She claims that she "ran out" of his seizure medication this morning because the pharmacy "didn't give her enough" the last time. This is untrue as I have seen this prescription bottle at least half a dozen times in the past four weeks. She is not intelligent enough to realize that I will see the date the prescription was filled on the bottle when I go next week.

I just do NOT know what to do here. I updated his doctor, social worker, CPS worker and supervisor today immediately after this happened but what do you do when the state is already involved and they just won't act?

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.

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Specializes in Pedi.

Update: After many attempts to reach the child's mother and her social worker with the state telling her that she had to allow me to see her child, I was able to see him this past Tuesday. She did have all of his meds (the clinic's social worker followed up with her last Friday after I did to remind her again that she needed to get them) and all of them were filled on Friday at the pharmacy by her apartment and the pharmacy confirmed they were picked up on Friday. So there is NO doubt in my mind that she was not giving his meds at all last week and didn't have them at the child's father's house last Friday when she blocked me from visiting. She gave his G-tube meds at least for a few days but he is also supposed to be on Flovent 2 puffs BID and she's given him a grand total of 11 puffs since she filled the prescription, which the pharmacy informed me was in May. I don't think she knew that I could see on the dose counter that 109 out of 120 doses remained and she tried to tell me that she filled this one last week with all the others, but I knew that wasn't true. I did speak with her Social Worker from CPS, her outreach worker with the agency she gets her services through and the child's doctor this week. At this point, everyone is concerned but I am just worried that no action is going to be taken until something really bad happens to the child. A social worker I know personally who works in a different city but also deals with many challenging cases told me that, in her experience, the state often doesn't take children like this as quickly as they might another child because they simply don't have anywhere to put them.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
A social worker I know personally who works in a different city but also deals with many challenging cases told me that in her experience, the state often doesn't take children like this as quickly as they might another child because they simply don't have anywhere to put them.[/quote']

^This is true in the area I work. There are no group homes for medically fragile children, and the closest one is 50-100 miles away. It is only used if they determine that the mother has NO possible way to adhere to support, whether their judgment is severely altered and they are not keeping appoints with anyone: doctors, caseworker, life skills therapists, etc. They don't have that many beds either.

The system is so burdened and also the families that they place kids with have been closely scrutinized because they find those that they placed with are NOT fit either. They did a study on how many generations that were in the system were likely to a use their kids, and they found a very close correlation on the linger the kids were in the system, the likelihood of anise and neglect, and they found a huge percentage of kids were physically and/or sexually abused.

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It is truly a bad cycle, unfortunately, but I think you are doing your absolute best in advocating for this child. Keep the faith and continue to advocate for this family. I did this for a good portion of my Peds career, and while its tough, I enjoyed the nursing work, and advocating for the children and the family, with positive results, no matter how small.

Thanks for the update-sending positive :nurse: vibes in helping you with this case. :yes:

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

*linger=longer; anise=abuse...wacky autocorrect!

Specializes in Acute Care Pediatrics.

This has been an interesting thread for me.... I work with so many medically neglected children, and at this point in my (somewhat new) nursing career, I have a very low opinion of both CPS and DSS. I actually don't know what it takes at this point to have a child removed from the home, because from what I can tell you can starve, refuse treatment, refuse medications, not buy clothes, and dump your kid off at the hospital for weeks at a time without every showing your face, and still you get to show up in time to sign the discharge papers and take the kids back. :(

Back in my younger years, I was on track to be a social worker. I am glad I didn't pursue that career.... I would have been arrested by now.

Specializes in Pedi.

Ugh, so this situation has kind of exploded again. I was away last week and a colleague saw him for me- she reported back that the objective data (96 doses of Flovent on the dial 8 days after I found 109 when he's supposed to be getting 4 per day) doesn't match with mom's story that she is giving it regularly. I updated the team yesterday and then while I'm en route to another house, get a phone call from Mom yelling at me asking me why I told the Social Worker that she wasn't giving the child his medications. I attempted to explain that I simply relayed what the nurse who saw the child last week told me and then she got angry and hung up. Today I get an email from someone at the MD's office saying that she called them to say that I was lying about her not giving the medication and that she wants a new nurse. The MD did contact me and say "I think you've done a great job with this family" and I have a feeling that this situation will change again after the Social Worker sees her tomorrow. I don't really care that she's told the Social Worker that I'm lying, everyone knows that she is lying and you can't really get more objective data than "there's 3/4 of a prescription left that was filled in May" to prove what the truth is...

It just really sucks when you do your job and try to do a job of it/are fulfilling your legal obligations and things like this are said about you...

Specializes in Acute Care Pediatrics.
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Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.

((HUGS)) sometime the right thing isn't the easy thing......trust me. I have done the right thing a couple of times andI walked a rough path....but I knew I had to do the right thing.

It is so sad to see a case like this. I have seen a few examples myself where DHR needed to take custody but didn't. I suspect that the reason the state has not taken custody is that they are worried that they have no place for the child. I couple of kids finally were taken by the state and placed in a nursing home. Every once in a while there are wonderful foster parents that will take the super complicated kids and love them as if they were there own, but those couples are hard to come by.

Specializes in Pediatrics/Developmental Pediatrics/Research/psych.

On the first part....you are 100% correct and I am surprised that social services doesn't remove the child (as sad as it is) to a place where he can be cared for. I feel bad for these women, but this is why (as controversial as it is) that state mandated birth control, sterilization, something should be used, because you run the risk of these women giving birth to a child that they cannot take care of or inheriting a genetic disorder that leaves the state to take care of them.

This is called eugenics, and I don't see how this is any different or better than "experiments" of infamous Nazi Dr Mengele or any other weeding that was used to form a "pure" race.

I am appalled that you actually feel this way!

Specializes in Pedi.

I need to resurrect this topic. Several months later and all of this is STILL an issue. The child started medical daycare in the fall. The hope was that we'd be able to bow out once he was established in the program. I went on vacation, came home and it took me weeks to track down the mother. When I finally did, she told me how great everything he was and how the child was enjoying going to school every day. And THEN, I hear from his doctor who says that, in fact, he's been missing school at least once/week and missed the appointment he had with her only one day after his mother told me she was going to it. She basically begged me to keep him on service if only just to see him once/month to check on his meds. I knew that plan was going to fail- first day I finally reach her to get out there she's got NO meds for him at home because she claims she sent them all to school. Clearly I couldn't just say "ok, see you in a month" to someone who's outright admitting to not giving her child his meds for several days. She told me several lies that day all of which I knew immediately were lies and confirmed with the pharmacy soon after I left. (The most notable of which was that she didn't have his seizure medication because the pharmacy was compounding it- he takes a medication that comes in liquid suspension/doesn't need to be compounded.) The next week I go back and the lies are even more apparent- now she's got bottles of meds that were filled months ago that still have more than half the bottle remaining, yet she expects me to believe that she's giving her kid his meds. Last week there's even more meds that she conveniently "found" around the house... again, all with labels from months ago that were for 30 day supplies. Sorry, if you found a 1/3 full bottle of medication from July and if the pharmacy tells me you haven't picked up a new inhaler since September but the one you have is more than 3/4 full, you haven't been giving the meds .

Today, I'm just MAD. She asked me to go out there WAY later than I normally work, which I did because conversations I had with other providers today led me to believe it was important that he be seen. And I get there and she's not home. She just left the kid with her parents knowing that they would let me in and let me see him but that I would have no way to assess her compliance with his meds without seeing them... and of course they are conveniently only in HER apartment. Several hours after it was due, no one had given the kid his afternoon bolus feed and, despite the fact that his overnight feeds were due to go up in about half hour, Mom was nowhere to be found, not coming home anytime soon and no one had any intention of feeding the kid until the Mom arrived home... whenever that would be. Now I'm completely convinced that she told me to come at a time when she had no intentions of being home so that I would have no way to see the meds and that she's not giving them. I will be calling CPS with an update first thing in the morning.

(He's also had two recent non-detectable AED levels as well as one non-trough level that was barely detectable.)

Specializes in critical care.

Such big hugs to you, love. I hope this gets better, quickly.

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