Published Jan 21, 2017
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injured1
39 Posts
Hi,
As via the title, should you take pathophys online or in person? I am in a dilemma, because I like to learn( but good G.P.A is great too! ). I have to take Patho and the class on campus is taught from 9 A.M-12 P.M once a week. Problem? I sleep like crap. What I mean is, if I go to bed at 3 A.M, I sleep great. Anytime before that, I struggle. Anyway, I bought the PathoPhysiology book and seen the online class. The online has zero lecture vids or notes....just read the book do XYZ. It kind of reminded me of medical terminology class I took 5 years ago. The book, well first chapter looks boring, and a little easy. I already took Ap1 and 2, and just last semester took Micro Biology( and really took notes in that class and got a 97% in lecture, but a B in lab ). It seems a lot I learned in Mirco( disease causing agents etc ) is retaught in patho, well in the book. I mean, online it says in the syllabus, we have 3.5 mins per question???? Idk what to do. From the book, because that's all I can go off of( no online lecture ) seems a blend of Micro and Human growth and development( or some call lifespan ). Am I missing something? Also how often do you use patho in nursing school and as a Nurse? I wish I could get over this sleep issue. It's not insomnia in the sense I can sleep great after 3 A.M.
The type of student I am: I always ask questions, I don't care if my prof is an M.D etc, I still ask q's. In fact, if I don't ask q's, I formulate them. Example....Talking about the hypothalamus ...I just imagine if someone had anxiety disorder...or say oxytocin...would I want to date a girl with high levels of that?...Ok the last one was a j/k...but a genuine q I asked myself in class when I took AP. Ha! Another, if I see the humerus with internal rotation and can imagine an impingement. However, it could be the bicep tendon as the bicep inserts into the radius goes up into what I call the shoulder groove into the pec muscle. So someone on bench press could nail their biceps tendon, that's missed as a shoulder injury instead.
So I guess in short, how often do you use patho in Nursing school? Would you take it online or in person? Also, how hard did you find it and what would you do..G.P.A vs Learning? The person who teaches online is a Ph.d in Micro. The lecturer( In class ) is an M.D. However, I looked them up, they never practiced as an M.D. Is this odd? They got their B.S and then went to another country, recognized by the U.S....got their M.D, and then started teaching. No practice. Just a side note.
Cat365
570 Posts
Patio is important and I learn better in class so I would go that way and nap after class. However, if you are a disciplined self-starter (I'm not) you might be ok online.
Here.I.Stand, BSN, RN
5,047 Posts
I would take it in class. I had to retake it online for my RN-to-BSN program, well it was all open book. Having to memorize the content for my in-person ADN program was much more effective for my learning. Besides if you need to ask questions, shouldn't you take the format that allows you to ask those questions?
How often do you use it in school and in practice? Um....every day. Physiologically healthy people do not need the nursing/medical care they come to the hospital or clinic or nursing facility for. Well many healthy women come to the hospital to have babies, but healthy women can go into DIC or get an amniotic fluid embolus or develop eclampsia. Without the study of patho, you would be clueless.
I don't know a thing about this prof. The fact that they have't practiced as an MD doesn't mean they forgot their knowledge of patho. Maybe they decided they didn't want to deal with residency or a litigious public? My A&P instructor was a PharmD; my patho instructor was an MSN RN. Neither of them have practiced as a physician either. So I can't say that "yes, it's very odd."
Thanks for the replies, My sleep I was afraid would not let me get up good enough to take Patho at 9 A.M. I went online. I was 6 days behind, crammed for 5 hours straight, got all A's in the first week. I relied heavily upon my Previous Microbiology Class, where we went over infectious diseases, along with different immune systems..AKA Adaptive etc. It seems Patho is a Blend of Micro and Human Growth and Development. However, even though I got all 100% across the board in my cramming.....Guess how much I learned? 0%. I relied so heavy on what I already knew, plus this patho seems to be common sense. However, can I tell you specifically about an anaphylactic shock, no. I can just say probably it is allergy based....I mean, I got A's but didn't get anything out of the class so far.
I talked to the prof who teaches it in the morning( the lecture ), they said I could sit in their class( just take tests with other teacher ). I was just honest, and told them, I can get A's all day probably, if I can cram 6 days into 5 hours....although I am told I absorb like a sponge. I just am not learning, or should I say learning anything new I didn't learn in Micro, Ap 1 and 2 etc. So I can sit for the lecture in class and do all the online stuff. I just feel I wear myself out to learn. I wanted to take AP2 all over, just to relearn....and it's like I have to jump through hoops. When I took AP1 and 2, it was combined in the same semester....so we went through, the whole AP Book in one semester. Now it's broken up and slowed down into two semesters. Getting the approval to go take this Ap2 has been a bugger. They offered me a 30000 level( Junior Level ) Physiology class to tie in with my old combined Ap1 and 2 class....but this class you barely learn much, AKA alot of nonsense. A B.S.N soon to be grad took the 30000 level class and said she learned nothing, but took it for the A and bc it was suggested. So I proposed I do both....but idk. I am frustrated. Would you take AP2 all over to relearn? Is it a waste? Also, would you sit in a patho lecture and take the online?
mmc51264, BSN, MSN, RN
3,308 Posts
you use patho every. single. day. This another one of those questions about "why do I have to take this" You absolutely need to know how the body works and more importantly, I think, what happens when it doesn't. Why do you have to worry about low potassium? sodium? third spacing? Path is probably more important than anatomy (although I have some pts that ask me why I am bladder scanning them so low-the other nurse did it up here-pointing at belly button)
If you can learn better online because of sleep issues, do it. I did my A&P online-got sent a mini lab kit to dissections at home that I would do in front of webcam.
I am curious what school you are attending where you "learn nothing" really? This is scary that there seems to be more posts lately where no one thinks the basics are not important.
Rocknurse, MSN, APRN, NP
1,367 Posts
I'm just curious....what are you going to do in the real world when you have to be up 5am to be on the floor by 6:30am if you can't get to bed until 3am?
TheCommuter, BSN, RN
102 Articles; 27,612 Posts
Moved to the Pre-Nursing Student forum for more replies.
Why is this moved to pre-nursing when the question asks about Patho( which most take while in Nursing ), plus the question is asking do nurses use this everyday and their experiences?
Extra Pickles
1,403 Posts
I was wondering about that too. Night shift is probably where the OP plans to work based on that kind of a sleeping pattern but he can't rely on that for some nursing classes, some clinicals and the real-world orientation life. OP, you really should try to address your sleeping problems now before they cripple your ability to work, or maybe even finish your nursing program. It looks like it could be a serious problem for you.
1. You are a pre-nursing student. We do not want the General Nursing Discussion forum clogged with threads pertaining to student issues. We reserve the right to move threads around as deemed appropriate.
2. Many nurses have never taken a pathophysiology course.
3. Nurses actively read the Pre-Nursing Student forum and will reply if they wish.