Opinions, Is this illegal?

[meriposa]

ok fellow homecare nurses--- does this seem wrong to you?

i was hired as a 40 hour per week salaried employee.... recently, our company was bought out and we are now paid per visit.. our census has plummetted and i have had appx. 12-15 revisits per week (for the past two months). in the past, our 40 hour salary was based on 30 revisits, which is fulltime, and of course 12-15 is hardly even part time pay. however, administration has told the full-time employees that although we are paid per visit, we were told- verbatim--, ' we own you for 8 hours a day regardless of the fact that you are only getting paid per visit."

so basically, i have 2-3 revisits per day but im sitting around from 8-430 monday thru friday because 'those are the rules.'

is this illegal? i have to be 'available' to them for 8 hours per day when im getting paid for 2 hours?? its not like we are even making on-call pay!! help!!??!!?

[tabster224]

I worked for a company in Arizona, 32 hours per week. I met my par on Thursday morning, first visit, so I made plans on Friday afternoon. I ended up with 30 visits (at 32 hours I was suppose to have 20-24 modified units/wk). I was called at 2 pm on Friday for a SOC that had to be done immediately and when I said no I had plans for that afternoon, my boss asked me if I met par, I told her yes, I had met it Thursday morning, and she stated, we own you from 8 am to 5 pm. I told her I was part time, and worked 5 days a week. that I worked this job because it was flexible. She told me again, we own you from 8-5 M-F and she would have to talk to me about this. I went in and told her my contract I signed said nothing about working 8-5 M-F, it only specified 20-24 modified units per week. She tried to tell me that it was not a contract, just an agreement. I laughed and told her I was part time, and I would not work 5 days a week and be available from 8-5. Now I work for the same company in California, and have not been told that once. I work 4 days a week 32 hours. Maybe it is branch to branch specific. This office I work for has been great so far. Good luck. I would find a company that fits your needs, and doesn't commit fraud.

[dscrn]

is it me, or does the "we own you" phrase make others' skin crawl?

[caliotter3]

is it me, or does the "we own you" phrase make others' skin crawl?

It makes my skin crawl too, but I've used it myself a lot and heard it used a lot in certain contexts. Not a desirable way to refer to oneself or other employees.

[berube]

just did a google search "amedisys medicare fraud"----very interesting.!!!

[caliotter3]

just did a google search "amedisys medicare fraud"----very interesting.!!!

Thanks for the tip, could use some interesting reading. :imbar

[lcc1080]

Ha! What's interesting is when you're on the other side - being paid for 8hrs, and they try to tell you that you should not be paid for the full 8hr day, when some of the patients were no-shows, or cancelled, etc. I guess we should all demand things in writing before accepting the job - and to be on the safe side, have your attorney look over the contract!

[bunnies123]

What are the duties of a clinical manager?

[KateRN1]

From my experience at Amedisys

*eat Cheerios at desk in morning, popcorn and other snacks in afternoon

*talk on phone all day but not to clinicians unless . . . .

*call clinicians for trivial matters that can wait 'til later

*harrass clinicians for minute details that are inconsequential (pt's heart rate 102, just had nebulizer tx "did you call the doc?" umm, no, expected side effect of albuterol)

*monitor all clinical charting to ensure that ridiculous non-Medicare standards are met

*be the "yes man" for the DOO

*claim to back you up in private and roast you in public

*promise patients things that clinicians can't deliver

That about sums it up. But I'm not bitter, you understand.

[whoa-now]

just as my name says "whoa now"!! I was hired as a Hospice Homehealth RN. You know I was way too honest, I expressed my concerns over questionable re-certs I had to do because their regular nurse called off for weeks at a time while I was left holding the bag as a new employee to Homehealth and Hospice and this new company I was working for. I felt coerced into practices I was not comfortable with and it was made out like I was doing something wrong! Well I guess I questioned too much. Before I had the chance to quit I was "terminated" grrrrrrr:no: now this looks bad on my applications while looking for a new job. It was not the company mentioned above it was one of their competitors in the area. It so amazes me that when one is an honest and decent person in general it seems to make them a bad nurse, or "not a team player". I am so dissappointed in the profession after only 5 years after graduation. Seriously.. It makes me so sad. All I want to do is care about people who are sick and be there for their loved ones. After 4 jobs in 5 years I still have hope that I will find a position that allows me to do that without being punished for it. If that makes any sense!?