rehired after terminated for attendance - page 2

hello, I was wondering if anyone has previously or currently worked at the Cleveland Clinic and has heard of an employee being rehired after being terminated for attendance? I worked at the... Read More

  1. by   HiddencatBSN
    I guess it would depend on whether an attendance firing is coded as "eligible for rehire" or "ineligible for rehire." I imagine the more time has passed and having good employment record in between would be helpful as well. In meeting with the recruiter I would be sure to address it in a way that shows you have made steps to take responsibility for your attendance and make sure it doesn't happen again. "I was in school" on its own isn't a great excuse but "I had overextended myself and didn't have a good plan in place for balancing responsibilities and learned XYZ and now have ABC plans in place to ensure that I do not make the same mistakes" is better.
  2. by   TriciaJ
    This is just my two cents, but in an interview I would lose the word "amazing". They might have been pleased with aspects of your performance but unlikely they were "amazed". Substitute the words "conscientious" and "detail oriented". Hope that helps. Good luck.
  3. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from TriciaJ
    This is just my two cents, but in an interview I would lose the word "amazing". They might have been pleased with aspects of your performance but unlikely they were "amazed". Substitute the words "conscientious" and "detail oriented". Hope that helps. Good luck.
    That kind of stood out to me too. "Amazing" workers don't get fired for attendance issues. Don't get me wrong, I completely understand the OP's position and don't mean to pile on but as a hiring manager I would find it a bit disingenuous for an interviewee to describe themselves as "amazing" but only when they showed up. I like the idea of switching out the words. To the OP I hope this doesn't come back to bite you in the butt. Cleveland Clinic is a huge multi-city, multi-state organization. They own and/or operate hundreds of hospitals. Best to be humble and explain where you went wrong and how you fixed it. I'd lose the superlatives.
  4. by   hppygr8ful
    Quote from AlmostRN2018
    90 days ago the recruiter seemed more concerned with whether or not I had any other issues during my time of employment such as poor performance...
    Absenteeism is poor performance as it is unprofessional and puts the facility, your co-workers and patients at risk due to short staffing. Unless asked I would stay away from you amazing job performance and focus on how you will discuss your absenteeism. Were you sick? was it school? what measures will you employ to prevent absences if you are hired etc.......As others have said you are likely to have an up hill battle!

    Good luck to you.

    Hppy
  5. by   Horseshoe
    Quote from Wuzzie
    I'd lose the superlatives.

    Agree. Leave the superlatives to your LOR writers.
  6. by   not.done.yet
    Attendance is an aspect of performance, as others have pointed out. Your situation sounds very specific; however, it would be unusual that something other than a pattern would result in termination, unless you were "no call no show" - which in my book should pretty much always result in termination. In our modern day of cell phones there is little to no excuse for not showing up for work and not notifying. I have no idea if that applies to your situation. However, you are losing sight that you caused a great strain on your coworkers and endangered the patients by leaving your unit short. Your past performance simply means they were surprised that you would do such a thing.

    I would not count on getting hired, to be honest. You might, but it has been my experience that recruiters tend to paint a rosier picture than really exists.
  7. by   NurseBlaq
    Quote from AlmostRN2018
    wow... ive seen employees with substance abuse issues rehired over and over again as well. even one who came to work under the influence of drugs (an RN, btw) who has allowed to return to wrk. its so unfair tbh
    OH has a program that prevents nurses from losing their license or being fired. They're offered a rehab program along with whatever else the OHBON deems necessary. If they screw up after that it's another story.

    To answer your question, I've heard of it before but are you talking about the main Cleve Clinic or one of their satellite facilities? The Clinic works on a point system and are very strict about attendance because they're already understaffed and have many travelers.

    I don't understand why anyone want to work there because they have policies that are ridiculous. I understand having policies for the facility but they want to dictate what you do outside of work too. Many people feel that way which is why they have a big traveler need.

    Do you not like UH?
  8. by   NurseBlaq
    Quote from cleback
    Doesn't hurt to try but honestly, if they really wanted to keep you, they would have found a way. There's a fair amount of discretion used to enforce attendance policies.
    Not at the Clinic. They have a strict point system and fire many people for attendance.
  9. by   AutumnApple
    I've seen things like this happen, yes.

    It has nothing to do with your performance though. The people who were rehired were brought in for very specific reasons:

    * They knew the right people.
    * They filled a gap that no one else was willing to fill (ie........working days and nights in the same week).
    * They were friends with the right people.
    * They worked in a position that was especially hard to fill (night time CNA's or whatever the facility is short on at the time).
    * They were buddy buddy with the right people up top.

    (Am I repeating myself? Not sure).
  10. by   Leader25
    In exactly what capacity were you working when you were fired?You did not use good judgement to have time off for school ,such as a leave of absence etc,might have been more acceptible.As for your old co workers, some might remember the good worker you or have not forgotten the chronic absentee who messed up their day.Just because you were employee of the month does not mean they "like" you enough to hire you in the capacity of RN.You could try but I would suggest you go someplace else get experience,and if you still want to try going back then do it.
  11. by   Elaine M
    What are their policies for outside of work? I've considered working/traveling there as I have relatives in the area.
  12. by   NurseBlaq
    Quote from Elaine M
    What are their policies for outside of work? I've considered working/traveling there as I have relatives in the area.

    http://cnhs.fiu.edu/nursing/undergra...%20Conduct.pdf

    Here's their employee code of conduct but there are many more "off book" things the clinic does that irked me and refused to work there. They may have changed because this was over 10 years ago but I'm not a fan.

    Also this re attendance:

    Local hospitals say it comes down to the level of care they need to provide.

    Cleveland Clinic said in a statement:

    "Poor attendance can have a negative impact on our operations, and more importantly, patient care," and that "all factors are taken into consideration" when an employee is absent too much.

    University Hospitals said:

    "[Nurses'] attendance is important to our patients and their colleagues, because unexpected absences can affect the level of care we provide. A record of unreliable attendance is unacceptable."

    Many of the nurses we spoke with said they needed to hide their faces and names because they're afraid they'll never get hired again if they speak out.

    Nurses say strict attendance policies aren't just a problem at Northeast Ohio hospitals - News 5 Cleveland
    Last edit by NurseBlaq on Aug 2
  13. by   Elaine M
    Quote from NurseBlaq
    http://cnhs.fiu.edu/nursing/undergra...%20Conduct.pdf

    Here's their employee code of conduct but there are many more "off book" things the clinic does that irked me and refused to work there. They may have changed because this was over 10 years ago but I'm not a fan.

    Also this re attendance:

    Local hospitals say it comes down to the level of care they need to provide.

    Cleveland Clinic said in a statement:

    "Poor attendance can have a negative impact on our operations, and more importantly, patient care," and that "all factors are taken into consideration" when an employee is absent too much.

    University Hospitals said:

    "[Nurses'] attendance is important to our patients and their colleagues, because unexpected absences can affect the level of care we provide. A record of unreliable attendance is unacceptable."

    Many of the nurses we spoke with said they needed to hide their faces and names because they're afraid they'll never get hired again if they speak out.

    Nurses say strict attendance policies aren't just a problem at Northeast Ohio hospitals - News 5 Cleveland
    Thank you!

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