Tracking RN's...why not Docs too??? - page 4
Posted on Thu, May. 30, 2002 Hospital to track nurses SYSTEM TO HELP PATIENTS RAISES PRIVACY CONCERNS By Putsata Reang Mercury News A new high-tech tracking system at Washington... Read More
Jun 27, '02Occupation: Student Joined: May '02; Posts: 413; Likes: 21That is not negative, merely realistic in my opinion. The owners of where I work have been doing everything cheaply possible to save money. They send the lovely mixed message of do more work around the facility, but still be easily accessible to the clients. When I am mopping or cutting the grass I am not within eye-shot of the front doors and the clients. So where is the logic in that. I am not going to do those things (which take between 2 and 4 hrs of work each at a time to do [providing you do not interrupted]) off the clock and not get paid for it. So we get in hot water with the home office for doing such things during business hours. Well duh! what do you think was going to happen when you refuse to pay us outside of business hours and and what all the cleaning and maintaince completed?
Sorry for venting, but just frustrating as all get out sometimes. I know you all can relate to this.
Jun 29, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Aug '01; Posts: 2,276; Likes: 42My feeling toward these would be either everyone in the hospital wears one (Head CEO down to the janitor), or no one wears them. If I were forced to wear one of those badges, I would quit so fast it would make your head spin!:spin: I can feel my blood pressure rising just because of this topic. The very idea of tagging us like we were wildlife! I wish the lazy management and administrators would get the idea that we need ways to keep nurses, not run them off! Like one poster said, if there were more of us, we would be able to take care of our patients in a timely manner.
Jul 1, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Mar '02; Posts: 37In response to SmilingBluEyes statement, "what is next? COW BELLS????? " A hospital I did clinicals at last year was doing some remodeling and some of the rooms were left with out a call bell system. So, they were given COW BELLS to call us with! This went on for a couple of weeks! I left everyday with a headache and feeling like a herded hefer! Ha!
Jun 12, '05Occupation: 20+ yr RN Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Critical Care ; From: US ; Joined: May '05; Posts: 7,520; Likes: 4,027This is the topic that first got me interested in this site:
I gather that in the 3 yrs since it was discussed here, these infrared trackers are becoming more and more commonplace and therefore just accepted.
Nobody thinks this is anti-nursing?
Nobody thinks it's an insult to have management monitor your intrashift movements?
Nobody thinks it's anti- patient advocacy to have management tell you that your critical thinking skills take a back seat to how well you sequentially answer call buttons?
Nobody thinks spending a quarter of a million dollars in order to create data to prove to me that I'm not answering call buttons fast enough instead of hiring more nurses with that money isn't asinine?
It seems like I'm the only one freaking out about this!?!
I just changed jobs and the straw that broke the proverbial back was one of these tracking systems. I felt so insulted. And the kicker: it was hinted to me that by leaving, I was being dis-loyal. My take is that this system was an adequate display to me that loyalty wasn't a two-way street to start with.
I'd love to hear some recent comments on this topic.
Jun 12, '05Occupation: Class of 2008 !!! Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 2,978; Likes: 78HA!
I can't believe this idea...tagging nurses......I'd quit too.
I just put one on my cat for Pete's Sake...... :angryfire
Jun 12, '05Occupation: 20+ yr RN Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Critical Care ; From: US ; Joined: May '05; Posts: 7,520; Likes: 4,027from:
---Christina Terranova, RN, LNC, a New York State Nurses Association nurse representative and member, was interviewed by "ABC News" and The New York Times on the issue of nurse tracking. Simply put, she finds the practice offensive to nurses and the profession, harmful to patient care and potentially harmful to nurses' health.
"Here we are in a national battle to preserve our profession, and the companies who make these systems are advertising them with slogans like 'Track your personnel and your equipment,'" Terranova said. "The day registered nurses are lumped in with IVAC pumps, it's a sad day."
She believes the use of tracking systems will continue to grow, because the health care industry is more into time management and profit margins than its original mission of caring for the ill.
"Some nurses might not care about it as an issue, but if one stops to think about it, wearing these devices is like home detention for prisoners," Roberts said. "It devalues nurses because it implies that they are not doing their work. Physicians would never tolerate it." ------
Jun 12, '05Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: May '05; Posts: 251; Likes: 100Quote from fedupnurseLet the suits wear them. Let the managers wear them. HELLO OUT THERE!!!! If we had enough STAFF patients would not have to WAIT for anything! Not punitive, my @ss! Take the hundreds of thousands that a system like this will cost and spend it on retention incentives! Oh, sorry, I forgot! That would make sense! I would quit in a New York minute if any hospital I worked for got that kind of a system. First I'd have fun. I'd bring in a remote control car and put the badge on it. I would send that thing into every patients room, the med room, the supply room, all over the stinking place. Then I would demand an accounting of my activity and ask them to explain to me how on earth I could possibly be expected to answer calls bells in 9 seconds flat when I am running around like an idiot!
It is things like this that show just how out of touch the suits are! This is why we have a shortage in hospitals!!!!!! Total lack of RESPECT!
Jun 12, '05Joined: Mar '99; Posts: 13,361; Likes: 1,376One of the hospitals where I sometimes work registry has them.
One manager uses them to criticize. Those nurses can't win -
"You spent too much time at the desk"
"What were you doing in room *** for 37 minutes on May 19th?" "What could possibly take that long"
I wonder how much time this person wastes scrutinizing those logs?!?!
And how about those devices like the Star Trek communicators? Worn as a pin they tell you when a call light is on. I would turn mine off when giving care. It is rude and wrong to interrupt the nurse/patient relationship like that!
Jun 12, '05Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 2,375; Likes: 2,862I worked with a more antiquated form of this. It didn't keep a record but did have a display at the secretary's desk (who answered the call light) showing where everyone was. My major issue was that I was always easily accessible anyway. . . the problem folks were the ones whose batteries were always dead or they always forgot and put the sensor in their pocket (rendering it untrackable). I do find the concept offensive and don't miss being there, it was one of the least nurse-friendly places I've ever worked (though it had the Baylor plan and that's why I put up with it for over a year).