Do physicians deserve credit for the work nurses do? - page 2
from center for nursing advocacy: do physicians deserve credit for the work nurses do? recently, the nobel prize-winning médecins sans frontières / doctors without borders (msf) launched a... Read More
Dec 9, '06Occupation: Exec. Director, The Truth About Nursing Joined: May '03; Posts: 71; Likes: 5Infirmières Sans Frontières
December 3, 2006 -- Recently, the Nobel Prize-winning Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders (MSF) launched a U.S. tour of an exhibit highlighting the global aid group's vital work in conflict zones. "A Refugee Camp in the Heart of the City" features MSF aid workers guiding visitors through a model of actual relief facilities. The exhibit explains the challenges MSF faces in providing care, nutrition, and decent living conditions. This is a perfect time to thank the group for its admirable work--and to note that its continuing use of the name "Doctors Without Borders" sends an inaccurate message about who is doing that work. We understand nurses are the most numerous health professionals among MSF workers, and they play a central role in the group's efforts. Yet when journalist Suzanne Gordon suggested to a physician MSF leader that the group consider adopting a name that did not slight its nurses, the leader said that she hoped MSF would never be so "stupid" as to do so. The Center for Nursing Advocacy has tried to discuss the matter with MSF for two months, but we have gotten no real response. The group's name seems to reflect the undervaluation of nursing that is undermining health worldwide, particularly in the developing nations MSF tries to help. We doubt that MSF would suffer by phasing in a similar name, like "Soins Sans Frontières" ("Health Care Without Borders"). We urge MSF to give its own nurses the credit they deserve--and that nurses everywhere need to help their patients. Read more
http://www.nursingadvocacy.org/news/2006/dec/msf.html or go straight to our letter-writing campaign!
Dec 9, '06Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 1,394; Likes: 216Hmmpf. Maybe if the nurses voted with their feet...
I sent my letter. I hope lots of others do, too.
Thanks for informing us.Last edit by TrudyRN on Dec 9, '06
Dec 9, '06Occupation: Medical Device co. Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in Critical care, cardiothoracics, VADs ; Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 1,470; Likes: 48Someone else posted a thread about this about 2 days ago which you may want to check out.
Dec 9, '06Occupation: MedLeg Consul/Educator/WHNP-FNP Specialty: 35 year(s) of experience in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '05; Posts: 108,854; Likes: 28,674Posts #14, 15, and 16 merged with existing thread.
Dec 9, '06Joined: May '02; Posts: 4,577; Likes: 4,883I've got an email back from MSF, and I'm sorry, EmerNurse - I think it's a form response because it included the section you quoted and didn't address the aspects I mentioned (including a recommendation that I check out the organisation through their website, despite my mentuioning that I'm already a sponsor). I still think they do good work, I will still support the group, and I don't really expect an individualised response. But if they think that people somehow magically know that MSF comprises other health care providers they should think again - a straw poll among frinds, family and colleagues revealed that more than half thought they were only or primarily physicians.
Dec 17, '06Occupation: Jack of all trades Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg, Geriatrics ; From: US ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 4,438; Likes: 3,919Fascinating. I honestly believed that MSF was mostly physicians. I'm embarrassed, I should have known better. I sent my letter.
Dec 17, '06Specialty: LTC ; From: US ; Joined: May '06; Posts: 412; Likes: 108Why does everything have to be so PC! :angryfire Why in the world would an organization change it's name to make sure nurses get credit? That just sounds ridiculous. An organization's name is not about honoring its workers. MSF does great things and I'm sure all the nurses who work for the organization will agree.
Dec 17, '06Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 5Just wanted to comment on some of the poster's attitudes. I believe that somebody said, "Docs win again." I have to say that nursing has been winning quite a bit recently. 10 states have independent CRNA practice, 23 have independent NP practice and an RN can make 80-100K if he/she travels. Read some doctor forums and they actually feel like they are losing to nursing (especially in primary care and anesthesia). Maybe in this case, we lost. But we have won some big ones recently too!
Dec 17, '06Occupation: CRNA Joined: May '04; Posts: 509; Likes: 135Quote from RiskrewardActually, CRNAs can practice independantly in all 50 states. We practice in collaboration with MDs.10 states have independent CRNA practice, 23 have independent NP practice and an RN can make 80-100K if he/she travels. Read some doctor forums and they actually feel like they are losing to nursing (especially in primary care and anesthesia). Maybe in this case, we lost. But we have won some big ones recently too!
Dec 17, '06Occupation: CRNA Joined: May '04; Posts: 509; Likes: 135Quote from EmerNurseI agree with this passage. In this day and age, name recognition is very important in the areas where this group goes. How would you suggest they get the "word" out about a name change? It's a very dangerous world out there and any little thing to keep these people safe should be done. I don't think a name change, just to make a group of people feel better about themselves is the right thing in this instance. JMHOJust got a lovely (NOT) canned email response:
"One of the most critical challenges we face is gaining recognition and acceptance for our presence and our work in volatile and insecure environments. This is why we have made such great efforts over the past 35 years to establish recognition for our name, logo, and ultimately our identity as an independent impartial medical humanitarian organization.....Against the backdrop of the urgent lifesaving assistance our field teams provide, the consequences of changing our name could be far-reaching and potentially harmful."
Signed by an RN, no less. In other words, docs win again.
Dec 17, '06Occupation: Day Surgery/Infusion/ED Specialty: Day Surgery/Infusion/ED ; Joined: Feb '06; Posts: 1,405; Likes: 47I wonder what the next "Nursing Outrage of the Moment" will be:
I suppose nurses at this hospital should be up in arms.
And this one.
Nurses here should demand action.
And certainly this can no longer be borne.
Many more than the ones I posted. If we're going to get so ridiculous as to call for MSF to rename the organization, then certainly any facility called "Doctors Hospital" should be next in the line of fire.Last edit by PANurseRN1 on Dec 17, '06