Just wanted to comment on some of the poster's attitudes. I believe that somebody said, "Docs win again." I have to say that nursing has been winning quite a bit recently. 10 states have independent CRNA practice, 23 have independent NP practice and an RN can make 80-100K if he/she travels. Read some doctor forums and they actually feel like they are losing to nursing (especially in primary care and anesthesia). Maybe in this case, we lost. But we have won some big ones recently too!