Nurses, Will you work OT for straight pay?

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  1. Will you work OT for straight pay?

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If you currently work OT for time and one half pay will you continue to work the hours for straight pay? What do you think of the new OT legislation and how it will effect nursing? What do you think of the exemptions for male dominated professions? ie, Police officers, firefighters and EMTs.

One more thing, the individual hospitals are not able to control if they pay overtime or not. It's federal regulations so every hospital cannot pay overtime.
Totally incorrect. Federal law DOES NOT PROHIBIT overtime.

Anyone here lost their overtime since Monday?....................................................................................................................................................................................................I didn't think so.

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No, I would NOT. I think it's unfair and unethical. If you work more than your scheduled shifts, it should be OT pay, IMHO.

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Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.
Just wait 'til those contracts come up for re-negotiation.. :stone

Ah yes, but you see, as we speak, they are there under negotiation---- and there are NO provisions or new additions intending to do away with OT for RNs or LPNs. But thanks for your concern, rofl. :rotfl:

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I hope your right Bob. But I don't count on it. The OT laws were a gigantic protection for all of us. Not only nurses but all who labor for an hourly wage. The push to take money out of nurses wallets won't come all at once, of course not. But it will happen. Medicine at the corporate level is no longer considered a healing art. It has become a profit oriented enterprise designed to put money into the pockets of the share holders. If profits are to be increased then expenses have to be decreased. This is a new way for the medicine for profit group to decrease expenses. Most assuredly they will. The extent to which they are willing to reach into all of our wallets will depend on just how much we are willing to let them.

What a question....kind of like asking someone if they would poke a flaming hot stick into their eye!!

I don't think anything will hapen to OT as we know it.

If you lose OT, then please come back and let us know.

I believe this is a lot of handwringing over something that is not going to happen to nurses.

bob

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Ah yes, but you see, as we speak, they are there under negotiation---- and there are NO provisions or new additions intending to do away with OT for RNs or LPNs. But thanks for your concern, rofl. :rotfl:

:) Lol, no of course not. IF it does occur it will happen a few years from now when they have a little phrase like "industry standard" to start throwing around..

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Just a quick question. Does anyone know what protection an RN had under the old overtime rules? Just curious because my old job (retail manager) had me under salary. I was told by the labor board that it was based on pay not on classification. In other words I was a professional because I made 21,000 a year. So I am confused as to how this change really affects everyone. The protection range was RAISED not lowered. So I thought it was a good thing for people like my wife who don't make that much money and used to be forced to work overtime for straight pay. She had no protection and now she does. As far as I read the rules before (and I could be mistaken) but, I do not remember there being a protection clause for nursing in it at all. That being said would that not have meant they could have classified you as "professional" before? Cut your overtime? I mean they know cutting overtime would cause a huge walkout. Especially for the BSN's out there. They can work in other fields with just a BSN. So would not be financially plausible for them. They would lose staff, be faced with rising lawsuits for being understaffed. Not only that I would see ER doctors forming together to compete with hospitals to offer better care and pay their RN's time and a half to make sure that they get the "customers". Just my 2 cents. Again I am not a nurse as of yet I am still just a student but I am heavy into politics and law. So if I am wrong please correct me with facts so I will know the truth. Thanks again.

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I'm not sure if this has been posted yet or not, but I found this on the Dept. of Labor's website. It appears to me that most nurses have nothing to worry about.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/fs17n_nurses.htm

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I'm not sure if this has been posted yet or not, but I found this on the Dept. of Labor's website. It appears to me that most nurses have nothing to worry about.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/fs17n_nurses.htm

Most everyone understands that as of right now, hourly nurses will still be paid overtime. The sky is not falling...yet. Much of the worry comes from what this could mean for the future. Working conditions usually do not go to h*** in a handbasket overnight. Things tend to snowball.

On the other hand, possession of a nursing license does not mandate one to work as a nurse. If conditions get intolerable - there really WILL be a nursing shortage.

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If you currently work OT for time and one half pay will you continue to work the hours for straight pay? What do you think of the new OT legislation and how it will effect nursing? What do you think of the exemptions for male dominated professions? ie, Police officers, firefighters and EMTs.

The whole thing is BS. Look at Dub-ya's key people...HCA's Frist family... Hmmm just HOW pretty must the millions of bucks look to this politically ambitious family, whose fortune is being made at the expense of every single nurse at this board?

I look forward to tommorrow, when I will have time to read all the earlier responses, as I am typing on the fly, and must get off soon.

Have lots to say later about the firefighters/etc... but gotta fly! Damn I hate when DH's play poke online!

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Most everyone understands that as of right now, hourly nurses will still be paid overtime. The sky is not falling...yet. Much of the worry comes from what this could mean for the future. Working conditions usually do not go to h*** in a handbasket overnight. Things tend to snowball.

On the other hand, possession of a nursing license does not mandate one to work as a nurse. If conditions get intolerable - there really WILL be a nursing shortage.

Exactly!

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I have a question: How many nurses posting on this thread have been told that they will lose overtime? Just curious.

In my state (and I'm assuming others), the state labor board is now going over the new rules and considering whether they will adopt or reject them. My state is due to make a decision in Oct/Nov. As you can see, changes will take longer than a week to make. As it stands, there are provisions in the federal regulations that says a state's protection overrides the federal rules. So, if you want to keep your protection, speak to your state representatives or state nurses associations. It's down to them now.

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Disrespect for the office of our president (no matter who holds it) by using silly names is inappropriate in this discussion. As a reminder, Congress plays a role in all legislation.

Would I work for straight time? No. My current employer retains a clause requiring mandatory OT and shift changes as they see need. Consequently, I am PRN only. Interestingly, though, PRN staff are paid much less here than other places I've been. In the past, I've made a couple of bucks more/hour to make up for no benefit outlay.

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