Nurses: Respect or Money? What Matters Most?

Money matters but so does professional respect. Which matters most to you?

  1. What matters most to you?

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Nurses: Respect or Money? What Matters Most?

While everyone’s situation and needs are different, at some basic level, there is a distinction for most of us. What matters the most to you?

Case 1

ED worked overtime again on a COVID-19 unit. He was exhausted and felt let-down by the management. He tried to make some suggestions that he felt would improve efficiency in meaningful ways and improve patient care, but sadly, his suggestions did not result in change. In addition to these difficulties, he felt the sting of being called down for what he perceived to be minor infractions. He was beginning to think of taking his five years of experience and moving to the cross-town hospital that reported high nursing satisfaction rates. His friend from nursing school that worked there gave him glowing reports of her floor’s structure and management. He realized, based on his friend’s reports that he would make slightly less than he was currently making.

Case 2

Shirley took a night job to make ends meet. The added money really helped with the bills she faced but she still found herself coming up short month-to-month. She enjoyed the job very much and liked the night pace on her med-surg unit. Her supervisor was simply the best, and her co-workers turned out to be friends. When she made suggestions that she felt would benefit patient outcomes, she felt like the management paid attention. If they didn’t implement them, they usually provided some feedback and at least some type of reasoning behind their decision. In spite of really loving her job, she recently applied for a position that had a slightly higher pay rate in addition to a sign-on bonus. She was seriously considering the switch even though she would hate leaving her group.

Depending on location, nurses’ salaries vary. The differences between California, New York and the Deep South are striking but the cost of living also has an impact. Statistics measure hourly wages but are less helpful in measuring quality of life. Cost of living calculators would show, for example, that it is considerably more expensive to live in Los Angeles than in Nashville. How do you decide where to work and live? Or whether to stay or move?

Nursing as a profession continues to evolve and command respect. Nurses of all levels of educational preparation have opportunities to pursue continuing education, as well as specialized certifications. As nurses pursue professionalization and join together to speak out locally and nationally, the profession continues to gain ground and prestige.

Although nursing has benefited from the public’s increased appreciation for their role, individual nurses continue in the struggle of maintaining a living wage and also being heard. Reimbursement is important, and so is respect. Nurses want to be able to survive and thrive on their earnings. Nurses also want to have a voice at the table and partner with management to have meaningful input on all aspects of patient care. Too many times, nurses end up feeling alienated from management that appears to disregard their input.

Many studies attempt to study the basic questions of “what makes nurses leave” their place of employment and also “what can we do to keep our nurses?” It is hard to answer these questions in a generic way since nursing practice encompasses myriad places of employment, skill levels, and working conditions. “Work-life interference and high workloads are major threats to nursing retention while challenge demands and higher levels of self-efficacy support better retention.”1 The study goes on to point out that to retain nurses, organizations must look at both job demands, job resources, personal demands, and personal resources. “Solutions that address the anticipated nursing shortage should focus on reducing burnout and enhancing the engagement of Registered Nurses (RNs) to improve retention.”2

The pandemic has brought nursing as a profession into sharp relief. Simultaneously admired and vilified nursing as a profession presents more opportunities and options. The days of starting out at one hospital and staying there for an entire career seem anachronistic. Nurses are finding their skills to be portable. They have opportunities to seek out increased respect and increased pay as their particular situation demands.

What do you see as most important? Respect or reimbursement? How about at your job? Do you feel like your management listens? What about your pay? Do you struggle with wanting to leave and do something else so that you can enjoy a better quality of life? Or maybe just so you can get by? How do those two things weigh in your work-life balance? If you could speak frankly with your managers about your concerns in this arena, what would you say?

1Factors predicting Registered Nurses' intentions to leave their organization and profession: A job demands-resources framework

2 Ibid.

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Joy is a Faith Community Nurse who enjoys long walks, cooking for a crowd, and playing with her grandchildren. She has had a long nursing career encompassing a number of areas of nursing.

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).

An article which shows that you have your fingers on the pulse of reality, Joy. A difficult question, indeed! Goods article!

Something that I noted during my 17 years at Wrongway Regional Medical Center where I received outstanding pay, but administration- pardon my French- sucked. Many felt as cattle herded by administration into the slaughterhouse and turnover was high.

Although relatively little respect was shown to staff by administration, respect was received in other ways: Staff showed respect to each other and patients gave respect to quality caregivers.

Two out of three ain't bad. Had it not been for the respect that I received from my peers, coworkers, and patients, I doubt that the great pay I received would have adequately compensated me for putting up with all the BS.

Staff often buoyed each other on through troubled waters. So, in sense, I got both- great pay and respect. Just not from administration

 

 

     In my opinion, Money=Respect.  Not that it is the only aspect of respect mind you, but a big part!  I feel overall compensation should be commensurate with nurses' educational preparedness, level of responsibility, experience, and intrinsic value in helping patient's/customers/clients navigate a complex healthcare system.  Stagnant wages and benefits that fail to do so, are a slap in the face to nurses and the 'do more with less' axiom seems to imply, nurse should have less so the the suits can have more.

Specializes in Wound care; CMSRN.

Money is what admin respects. Talent and ability come second. Quite seriously; the more you cost somebody, the better they listen. The value of your input is directly related to your paycheck. That does need to be backed by ability. It also helps if you're tall and good looking (I'm neither) This is not a perfect world.

Specializes in Faith Community Nurse (FCN).
11 hours ago, Davey Do said:

An article which shows that you have your fingers on the pulse of reality, Joy. A difficult question, indeed! Goods article!

Something that I noted during my 17 years at Wrongway Regional Medical Center where I received outstanding pay, but administration- pardon my French- sucked. Many felt as cattle herded by administration into the slaughterhouse and turnover was high.

Although relatively little respect was shown to staff by administration, respect was received in other ways: Staff showed respect to each other and patients gave respect to quality caregivers.

Two out of three ain't bad. Had it not been for the respect that I received from my peers, coworkers, and patients, I doubt that the great pay I received would have adequately compensated me for putting up with all the BS.

Staff often buoyed each other on through troubled waters. So, in sense, I got both- great pay and respect. Just not from administration

 

 

Thank you for your thoughtful response! Great insights and something I had not fully considered. Joy

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Money talks. Money is respect in the corporate world, as we are in the corporate world. I refuse to choose between them.

Specializes in Dialysis.
31 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Money talks. Money is respect in the corporate world, as we are in the corporate world. I refuse to choose between them.

Respect is nice, but it doesn't feed my family or pay my bills

Specializes in New Critical care NP, Critical care, Med-surg, LTC.

There are many factors that go into the money portion of things, especially when unions and large corporations are involved. I'm well aware that my pay is not impacted by managers and people that I see on a daily basis, it's also above their heads. However, how I am treated by those that I do see on a daily basis is entirely within their control and has a much more direct impact on my day to day satisfaction with a job. If I were truly making a wage that was inappropriately low that would change things, but in the current environment- I know that my hospital is in the $5-7/hr lower range than another local hospital, I wouldn't consider moving because I know the work environment there is even worse than ours. 

I also think that respect is not a top down issue, the respect of peers and the working environment on the floor is also a key aspect. Our hospital on the whole really has a positive feel from the nurses. Not a lot of backstabbing or cliques, I really feel like people work together well the majority of the time. So some of it doesn't involve management at all. 

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.

Money IS respect. Think about it: all the high paying jobs are usually some of the most respected: doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. While some of the lowest paying jobs are the least respected (fast food workers, retail workers, etc). 

To show respect, these corporations should pay nurses a higher wage cause what most of us are getting is for the birds.

Specializes in CEN.

At this point in time, I can't afford to care about respect; I'm the primary breadwinner and I've got mouths to feed. What I do care about more than money is whether administration is supplying me with the resources I need to properly perform my duties. This includes staffing and working equipment. When provided with neither, my license can be at risk due to inadequate care. 

Provision of resources isn't a sign of respect,  it's basic management skills and common sense. It's about time the higher ups realize that. 

Specializes in Faith Community Nurse (FCN).
2 hours ago, evastone said:

At this point in time, I can't afford to care about respect; I'm the primary breadwinner and I've got mouths to feed. What I do care about more than money is whether administration is supplying me with the resources I need to properly perform my duties. This includes staffing and working equipment. When provided with neither, my license can be at risk due to inadequate care. 

Provision of resources isn't a sign of respect,  it's basic management skills and common sense. It's about time the higher ups realize that. 

This is an important point. Thank you for bringing it up. Joy

Specializes in Faith Community Nurse (FCN).
7 hours ago, JBMmom said:

There are many factors that go into the money portion of things, especially when unions and large corporations are involved. I'm well aware that my pay is not impacted by managers and people that I see on a daily basis, it's also above their heads. However, how I am treated by those that I do see on a daily basis is entirely within their control and has a much more direct impact on my day to day satisfaction with a job. If I were truly making a wage that was inappropriately low that would change things, but in the current environment- I know that my hospital is in the $5-7/hr lower range than another local hospital, I wouldn't consider moving because I know the work environment there is even worse than ours. 

I also think that respect is not a top down issue, the respect of peers and the working environment on the floor is also a key aspect. Our hospital on the whole really has a positive feel from the nurses. Not a lot of backstabbing or cliques, I really feel like people work together well the majority of the time. So some of it doesn't involve management at all. 

Thank you for your thought-provoking comment. You make strong points about how important the work environment and the peer respect is. Joy