Nurses go for trial

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I know this is old news but I don't think it has been posted about here and it needs discussing.

TWO Gold Coast nurses will stand trial on manslaughter charges more than a year after a "fit and healthy" father of three fell critically ill on their watch.

Michael Gibbons, 50, and Jennifer Valentine, 46, were on night shift at Southport's Pacific Private Hospital in April last year when physical education teacher Christopher Hammett became unconscious.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20845201-23289,00.html

I have been trying to follow this and it seems that the charges were brought on behalf of the family. It seems odd that the hospital has not been investigated because I would question why there was only an RN and an EEN staffing the ward (which from what I gather was the ward staff)

Prosecutor Peter Feeney said Mr Gibbons had taken a break between 1am and 2am, after "the condition of the patient had deteriorated to the extent that by 1am he required urgent medical treatment".

Mr Feeney also told the court that Mr Gibbons and Ms Valentine were negligent in failing to shake or wake up Mr Hammett and for failing to phone a surgeon to report his poor condition.

"They weren't in the middle of the Sahara Desert," he said.

"They had a telephone to call the doctor on shift."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,18553702-421,00.html

The two news articles I have posted containt the gist of the story as I have been able to determine. I think we, as nurses, need to watch the development of this case very carefully because there are implications here that go way, way beyond what happened.

I am puzzled too as to why a 46 year old would have aspirated post-op - why was his consciousness so impaired? I am NOT blaming the patient here - there is obviously a LOT of questions to be asked as to why his deteriorating condition was not detected earlier but there are also a lot more questions about how he got into that state in the first place.

Specializes in ER.

The article doesn't say what signs were noted and not acted on as the patient got sicker. If they just walked in and found him that's one thing, but if they stood there as he declined that would be different. Are there any more detailed articles?

Specializes in Medical.

i've just done a new search and found an article ([color=#003399]http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18553702-29277,00.html) that reports the enrolled nurse "observed mr hammett's rapid decline. 'she was recording but not responding to his deterioration, particularly his oxygen levels,' [said the prosecutor]," which is certainly an issue.

the registered nurse went on break at 1am, around the time that (i assume according to the documentation) the patient's condition seriously deteriorated.

from what i've read both nurses were relatively inexperienced.

Well yes but still if it is true that the nurse only recorded and didn't report that is an issue. We have only an EN and an RN on nights here, a 25 bed rural hospital with A&E. I have wondered what would happen if things turned to whatsit O/N.But when things do go off the docs and other staff have in the past been called in. We also don't have a break on our ten hour night shift. It's scary stuff.

Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.
Chigap-If this ward was working under their staffing requirement did you write an incident report? I certainly would be. I'd also be contacting the ANF about it as well.

You took the words right out of my mouth Scrubby. They cannot afford to ignore an incident report...especially if you keep records at home about what happened that night as well, should there have been any consequences...

Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.

From what I've read both nurses were relatively inexperienced.

I bet the hospital won't take the skill level into account...they just want 'bums on seats' until something happens...

Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.

you don't need to be a 30 year experienced nurse to be able to see someone looks 'crook!'.

Not judging these nurses by any means, however, if someone was declining that rapidly ..............

Either way, the whole thing is very unfortunate and rather sad.

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Specializes in Community, Renal, OR.

Hi,

The case has been thrown out of court, but how stressful for those involved!

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23572872-5005961,00.html

Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.

Thank you Joanne, for posting this.

Having been in the situation of being the spouse of a patient who suffered due to medical negligence, I can tell you, the health industry tells lies and covers it's backside! BIG time!

Having being a nurse, I also know that sometimes dreadful things happen.

My sympathy goes out to that family who have lost a loved husband and father.

If indeed, those two nurses were blameless, and I don't know because I wasn't there, then they have also been through a stressful and trying time. And, this outcome is good news for them.

If they aren't blameless, I hope they both do some serious re-evaluaton of themselves and how they practise nursing.

I hope also, that the system as a whole, if negligence was a factor, takes measures to improve itself and better protect and care for those entrusted into it's care.

I hope the family find peace eventually.

thanks for posting as i had been interested in this case.

i agree with GraceOz. if they did their best, but were merely used as a scapegoat then hopefully the nurses can have piece of mind now and get on with their lives and careers.

however if there was some negligence on their part, then they really reconsider their options re whether to rtn to this profession.

Think this should be an example to those nurses who aren't pulling their weight and not acting when pt's become acutely unwell.

i have worked with and am sure will continue to work with staff that do not understand the implications of not providing a duty of care. they are there in a professional capacity, and their pt's rely on them to protect and care for them. there's a very blase attitude out their now, people don't want to do more than the basics, and it is tiring for others to pick up their mess over and over again.

Specializes in Medical.

I was concerned that they were charged before there had even been a Coronial investigation. I absolutely feel for the family, but also for the nurses, who (whether they contributed, singly or jointly, to his death) have had this hanging over them for so long. I'd really like to know more about what actually happened, but doubt more facts will come out.

Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.

I think you're correct in saying no more facts will be revealed.

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