Nurse needs assistance. Teenager Out of Control!!!

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I am asking for help and advice regarding my 17 year old son. I work registry and deal with kids quite often in crisis, but failed to notice the one living under my roof. He is now 17 and last week end, while my husband, loving and supportive man that he is, and I were gone for the week end, leaving my son with his trusted uncle's, he stole my BMW and , while drunk, high on drugs and seeking cocaine, ran into a pole somewhere. Fortunately no one was harmed, however I am worried to distraction over this repeat behavior.

A little history.. I divorced a very abusive father when my son was 13. We all went thru professional family couselling and my son and I lived alone for a few years, me working day shift registry with trusted neighbors waking my son and taking him to school. In between I endured horrific continued physical and verbal abuse by my ex husband, including an attempted rape while my son was in his room, ex being in a drunken rage.

Despite the fact that my ex continues to call me horrific names, tell my son that I am a liar and want to have him "put away" I always felt we had a good relationship, having since remarried a wonderful, fair and supportive man who has been very good to both of us. "J" recently began behaving very reclusively, keeping to his room, declining grades despite hiring a tutor and our concern was voiced, this kid was very good at telling us all what he thought we wanted to hear.

My son returned with my damaged car on Saturday, had his father pick him up and take him to his apartment and refuses to let me speak with him on the phone, telling me, " This is all your fault for divorcing me and you are getting payback for marrying that home wrecker and this kid is going to know just what a piece of &hit you are!!!". He denies there is a drug problem, even tho my son confessed to using pot, coke, meth and drinking, feels like he can handle this with "a good swift kick in his ***!"

I picked my child up from school yesterday and took him to a drug treatment facility so he could be evaluated, he tested positive for several drugs, admitted he was out of control and needed help. They feel intensive out patient psychotherapy would be best for him, he also was felt to have suffered from some type of sexual abuse although reluctant to describe. My son has informed me that he wishes to live with his father and his grlfriend for now but is willing to continue with therapy. My problem, my friends, is this...

How can I continue to stay strong, fight for my child, provide for him the help he needs when every step forward is followed by a phone call from his Dad berating me for taking him out of school for treatment and evaluation? How do I help my son overcome this man's constant diatribe of unthruths that he seems to be subjected to on a daily basis? I have tossed the kids room and found horrific hate notes directed towards me, my husband, that seem to parrot the verbal vomit that comes from his father. The dads girlfriend is helpful to a point but say's she is on the verge of leaving due to the verbal abuse and drinking. I have an MD appointment for my son tomorrow, and an appointment with his psychologist starting on Tuesday. We tossed the room and found several knives, razor blades, an air gun and some very hatefull letters. I am afraid of my own kid, and need some advice. I know this is off topic but I think the worst feeling I have, not including the anguish and heartache, is, I am a nurse and did not see the signs of a child in trouble.

Thank you for listening and for always being there for me...

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Two words TOUGH LOVE.

I am not a mom of a teen (yet, but oh so close with a son turning 13 in a few weeks)---- but I have seen many struggles in my own family (me specifically in those years)---- and friends' families. If counseling does not work, try that. There are actually tough love workshops out there.

I am so sorry. I am the last person to claim ANY expertise when dealing with teens, just entering those years here ourselves. I dont' think ANYone has all the answers, really. Some kids sail through w/little trouble, only to crash and burn in their 20s, others have horrible times as adolescents and then straighten out and pull it together by their young 20s (I did this). I wish there were more we could do to help you.

One more word: LISTEN. Omg listen as much as you can. When you are calmed down, if this kid has anything to say about the situation, sit, facing him, and make good eye contact, keeping your judgments and anger at bay, and LISTEN to whatever he says. It may not be what you want to hear (well I bet it won't be) but do it anyway. That is a great first step to mending things and hopefully getting to the bottom of his problems. If he refuses to talk to you..............

I agree w/the others. TRY counseling (remembering it takes a WILLING person to have this work). If not, you MAY have to get "tough", letting him "hit bottom" (like mentioned by the posters before me), before the kid "gets it". ((((GREAT BIG HUGS TO YOU)))).

Please dont' be too hard on yourself; this could happen to any of us, no parent is perfect. Hang in there and let us know how things are going, ok???

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Oh and yea, the father situation, it would be wise to seek legal counsel on that. I agree. The people before me offered you excellent, sage advice. I just want to offer my support, not being an expert, myself.

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you know, i just realized, the OP probably won't see any of this. She is not "premium" and it was moved to a preemie forum. Maybe we can copy/paste these replies to her PM box? Is that allowed?

I think they can view the Break Room but can not post.

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Haunted,

I hope I have helped you some. I know I was wordy but I feel for you. I have 5 kids/2 mine/3 step and I would not wish what I am going through with my dtr on my worst enemy or what I live with daily related to my stepkids.

Hugs,

renerian

You may want to be in touch with a domestic violence agency re your scary stepson! I yi yi! Does hubby know how afraid you are?

dear haunte,

parents divorcing when a boy is 13 is probably one of the most traumatic ages for this to happen...my 14 yo always shows anger towards his dad but at the same time, when he's not home, he keeps on asking when he will be home.

it sounds like your ex has brainwashed your son into thinking that your dh broke the marriage up, thus the reason for showing such animosity and defiance.

i DO strongly believe you need legal counsel in terms of your son's dad being deemed unfit, citing his alcoholism and his verbal abuse to you. start taking notes.

i have mixed feelings about tough love- normally i would recomend it to the teens that are unmanageable and out of control. but to me, his anger sounds like an extreme form of pain. get him dried out, if that's what he needs. and yes you can show tough love at home but at the same time show him tender, compassionate love. as deb said, sit down with him and listen- even if he's yelling; show him the respect that he's worthy of being listened to. get him to a counselor; or i was told group therapy is better for teens. but do get him help and get help for yourself. do not allow this man to berate you anymore. you do need the court's involvement on that. please get a family lawyer and see what they say.

it's natural for kids to dislike their stepparents and the parent who initiated the divorce.....but it's about time some definitive action was taken and nip this in the bud. pm me anytime, should you want to talk.

leslie :icon_hug:

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I hope you can read our responses? Zoe yes my hubby knows of this fear.....

Blue eyes you are so right. No parent knows it all, some crash and burn no matter what we do.

renerian

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((((((((((((renerian))))))))))) I know you are going through a lot, too.

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you know, i just realized, the OP probably won't see any of this. She is not "premium" and it was moved to a preemie forum. Maybe we can copy/paste these replies to her PM box? Is that allowed?
I don't see why not.

I SO wish my Mother could post here. My parents faced a somewhat similar situation with my brother (albeit I agree, MINUS the divorce part). But it was crazy for a few months on end...

It's been a very very long road and my Mother reports that only about now is he starting to really straighten up.

this is really rough..somethings only time and prayer can solve...don't know laws in your state but in some states they are entitled to make own decisions at 17

if your exs girlfriend moves out things will escalate..she may be the only thing holding the dad in

your son may be in extreme danger if he is the only one to take the brunt of his dad's anger

see in you can arrange an in-house rehab...your son's whole life depends on what you do during this time..i pray that you can get a good program going

i am glad that you have your husband to hold on to at this time

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I'm moving this back to General Nursing. It is affecting this mother's ability to do her job. And to me THAT belongs in a Nursing discussion.

"J" has been evaluated by a out patient drug rehab facility and while he admits to "using" they feel he requires more intensive academics (it is an 8 hour day program) than he would be getting.

He was assessed by a Psychiatrist who specializes in adolescents and during the interview my son admitted to substance abuse, a great deal of anger towards me and general unhappiness but refused to consider medication, even on a temporary basis, reason given, "my Dad won't let me and since I am staying with him I can't be taking any pills". Duly noted by the doc who will cc: me a copy of her assessment, she is giving him a diagnosis of depression r/o psychosis NOS because he expressed some severe paranoid feelings.

It seems that we are slowly re establishing some productive communication and the weepy days have resolved to just a brief tearing up here and there, I was actually able to work a shift on Friday and was relieved to focus on my profession for 8 great hours! My son has an appointment to resume his treatment by his former Psychologist tomorrow( Tuesday eve) however, last night we had a bit of a set back...

The ex called and said he would be dropping son off early at the house as there were some problems with the girlfriend. I said fine, no problem, he can have breakfast and walk to school from here. Around 8:30 I called the apartment to remind my son to come thru the back door as we are locking the front door. The girlfriend could be heard in the background literally RANTING about Dad, calling him names, just RANTING! My heart started pounding and I asked where his father was, "Asleep" he replied. I asked if my son felt safe, he said "No, can you come and get me?" BOOM, my husband and I were in the car, at the apartment in record time.

The place looked like a hurricane had hit it. The girlfriend was extremely agitated and while my husband helped my son gather his belongings, I stayed with her to calm her down and find out what happened. It appeared, a usual to be a case of the ex staedily drinking, becoming somewhat unreasonable and a verbal fight ensued. As my son and husband waited in the car, I went into the bedroom to tell the sleeping/drunken ex that I was bring the son home for the night. He grabbed me by the throat, I smacked him over the head with a partially empty plastic soda bottle and fled!

My son is still sleeping and will have a late start at school today. I will try and deal with the ex over the phone at some point because, PS, we also have their CAT!!!

I want to thank the moderator for moving this thread and to tell you that along this journey I have been educated regarding substance abuse in ways I never see while working in patient settings. There, I only see the process, here I see how it all begins. Thanks for your prayers, your support and love.

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