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Lunah, MSN, RN

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Honestly, who comes to work on promises anymore? I have had every nursing job salary in writing prior to accepting the job.

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1 hour ago, Pixie.RN said:

Honestly, who comes to work on promises anymore? I have had every nursing job salary in writing prior to accepting the job.

Also, who would actually work for HCA anymore? They're pretty well known for treating all employees (and patients) like garbage.

caliotter3

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1 hour ago, Pixie.RN said:

Honestly, who comes to work on promises anymore? I have had every nursing job salary in writing prior to accepting the job.

Imagine expecting integrity in health care employment. What an insane expectation.

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Lunah, MSN, RN

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2 hours ago, LibraSunCNM said:

Also, who would actually work for HCA anymore? They're pretty well known for treating all employees (and patients) like garbage.

I had a good experience working for one, but I think the overall reputation is what it is. I took a pay cut to go work in an academic center.

Forest2

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On 7/3/2019 at 3:34 PM, JadedCPN said:

Just want to point out, as a nurse who started their career years ago in ICU, that ICU is not the "highest qualified" position/nursing as you stated. You've had three people now, including myself, simply informing you that the way you worded your rant about your friend comes across as slightly insulting to med surg nursing, even if that is not what was intended. Perhaps you should humbly listen.

In terms of the actual issue here, I definitely wouldn't be cool with that as an experienced nurse. I've heard of similar type of setups for new grads which makes slightly more sense. Unless I were desperate for a job or super flexible about the job, that would be a hard no from me.

ETA: Many areas of nursing are "highly specialized" (ICU, oncology, cardiology, etc) and as has been discussed ad nauseam on AN in the past regarding if one is "better" or more specialized than the other. In my opinion the answer is no, they're all specialized in their own ways, and that is what makes nursing great. And I second what Orion said about some ICU nurses not being able to handle med-surg - when I transitioned over, it was a harder transition than when I started as a new grad in the ICU.

I know what she means and I didn't take it personally. I'm not that darn sensitive. I would not want an ICU nurse to do my job, she needs to be in her own specialty where her expertise is.

Forest2

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On 7/3/2019 at 4:13 PM, HomeBound said:

Agreed. I think its offensive that the nurse manager lied so blatantly to the best friend. It's really indicating that the nurse manager is the one who believes ICU nurses are better than med surg or whatever it was she was trying to fill when she put out false calls.

Sounded to me she was just trying to fill holes. So, she did the bait and switch, hope it works deal.

Forest2

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On 7/3/2019 at 6:08 PM, TitaniumPlates said:

Finally. THIS is what I asked. Is this happening to anyone else.

It surprises me that the attitude is to divert from the original question and have panties in a bunch over wording that can and has been misconstrued into something that's not even intended.

I don't have to walk anything back. The fact of the matter is, that ICU, PICU, Cards, ER, OR---are highly specialized that take YEARS of specialty training to do. I have had floor nurse come to the ER and make it for one single day and then threaten to quit if they are floated again. I have had ICU nurses come to the ER and do the same. I personally would never, ever be a med surg-tele nurse because I feel that having 6-8:1 is NOT giving proper care to any patient. It's a disaster waiting to happen up there on the floors in my hospital.That's another conversation altogether.

My friend not only has the certifications in both ER and ICU---she has level 1 experience, 6 years of it. She can flex back and forth between Charge, Float and Staff. She can and has floated to MED SURG and aced that floor like a boss.

She deserves the truth---as do all nurses. ALL OF THEM. This nurse manager is a POS and I for one am sick and tired of the managers doing this crap.

I also haven't heard from any of the managers on this board---I find them to be conspicuously silent on subjects such as truthfulness, honesty, integrity and fairness (unless it's to ask..."what is that YOU consider 'fair'. which is just a backhanded way of saying...well...I, as the manager, since I want my bonus, think it's perfectly fair to cheat my employees.)

It chaps my hide that anybody would think that this bait and switch is okay because hey---she's an ICU RN and she thinks she's better than us Med Surg nurses.

She worked effing hard to get where she is--and she didn't deserve to be lied to, using her desire to be near her family and taking advantage.

I hear ya. I got the ole bait and switch. Was not happy. I was asked to interview for the job and after the interview they told me that the position had been filled, but hey, we got this other one over here, we can offer you that. I said no thanks and left. But, honest to heaven's, making people get all in knots over an interview, get ready, make arrangements and drive there, then you get this crap handed to you. It's disgraceful. I know what they are trying to do. They are desperate to get those positions filled. It is basically a scam to draw you in. If they need nurses have an open house for crying out loud!

Forest2

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On 7/4/2019 at 11:34 AM, Jedrnurse said:

It sure did. Is it my imagination, or is this phenomenon becoming more and more common on the site?

One thing my preacher used to say and it sticks with me to this day. Be difficult to offend and be difficult to offend. Meaning, you avoid offending others and you don't take offense. I guess I was raised a tough country kid and stuff like this doesn't bother me, but I have a little sister who is soooooo sensitive. We all got our issues.

Forest2

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On 7/8/2019 at 5:01 PM, TitaniumPlates said:

Nursing is becoming a scam now?

As far as I am concerned they committed fraud and false advertisement. Maybe they will get sued someday.

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Nurse Beth, MSN

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Specializes in Tele, ICU, Staff Development.

It is common for new grads to apply, listing a first choice and a second choice. But even then they're told ahead of time, before they accept an offer.

inshallamiami

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Again, it’s interesting the Nurse managers won’t respond to this post. Cowards

klone, MSN, RN

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
4 hours ago, inshallamiami said:

Again, it’s interesting the Nurse managers won’t respond to this post. Cowards

What on earth are you talking about? Several of us did. Don't call me a coward. You don't know me.

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