No nursing jobs in 2012 ???

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Please look forward two years...do you think the job market (for RN's) will be worse than it is now? Of course the question is hypothetical, but I'm really concerned with socialized medicine and low wages for nurses.

Thanks for your comment!

Specializes in ER/Acute Care.

This is a scary thread.

I don't know if projecting the job outlook is realistic or constructive. :sofahider JMHO...

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Specializes in Med/Surg, ICU, educator.

As I've told other posters with similar questions:

My crystal ball is hazy right now.....;)

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"I'm really concerned with socialized medicine and low wages for nurses."

Don't drink the kool-aid. Socialized anything is not on the horizon for this country.

I'm sorry is "Don't Drink the Kool-Aid" a therapeutic response? And following it with false hopes? You, me and/or anyone on this thread does not know what the future holds.

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Specializes in GYN/ONCOLOGY.

I agree with the comments posted above- there will always be a need for healthcare providers. That being said, the three major hospitals in my area are bringing in hundreds of RN's from the Philippines. Now- our nursing school grads are having problems finding jobs. I see this being a bigger issue.

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"My crystal ball is hazy right now....."

Same here. I guess we won't really know until we get there, so I really, really hope things get better.

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"Ram something through?" Any meaningful healthcare reform was originally hijacked in 1994. Dubya, of course, would do nothing. So it has been FIFTEEN YEARS of this mess, and now we are going too fast? And lets not forget that anything passed today will not take effect for FIVE MORE YEARS. Moving too fast, are you serious?

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Specializes in Med Surg.
"Ram something through?" Any meaningful healthcare reform was originally hijacked in 1994. Dubya, of course, would do nothing. So it has been FIFTEEN YEARS of this mess, and now we are going too fast? And lets not forget that anything passed today will not take effect for FIVE MORE YEARS. Moving too fast, are you serious?

In the seventies, Richard Nixon, a Republican president if I'm not mistaken, proposed a health care bill very similar to the ones being kicked about the halls of Congress at this very moment. It was rejected en masse by (drum roll please) the Democratic controlled congress. If you are going to dredge up history, at least dredge it all up.

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Specializes in M/S, MICU, CVICU, SICU, ER, Trauma, NICU.
Works both ways. You may not get to choose your hospital either when you're the patient.

I'm just thinking of the public hospital mentality that I've also seen. Our public hospital "employees" tend to treat their patients like...unfortunately, dirt. Although I personally wouldn't because of this, I'm going to get very disappointed if we start to judge people by their insurances.

I think it is inevitable. If a privately insured patient gets admitted, will they get better treatment then the public insured? Yup, personally, I think so. We do that now with our VIPS, the ones who donate monies to our foundation.

They are pushed to the front of the line and we're told who they are.

I am assure you that those with $$$$ will always get better treatment.

That's for sure.

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Richard Nixon was a criminal. Hilarious that you should want to bring him up in ANY context. However, here are the facts:

"Despite the heated politics of Watergate, national health-care legislation was proceeding in Congress thanks to a compromise brokered by a young Democratic senator from Massachusetts, Edward Kennedy, a Nixon nemesis.

But then, according to a 1974 political almanac published by Congressional Quarterly, the AFL-CIO and the United Auto Workers lobbied successfully to kill the plan. Unions hoped to get a better deal after the next elections.

The rest was, as they say, history."

Harry Truman and Jimmy Carter also championed universal health care, and were shot down by Republican opposition. So the right wing has a fine historical record of keeping the health care system in the state of disrepair it is to this day.

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Specializes in Med Surg.

"Despite the heated politics of Watergate, national health-care legislation was proceeding in Congress thanks to a compromise brokered by a young Democratic senator from Massachusetts, Edward Kennedy, a Nixon nemesis.

But then, according to a 1974 political almanac published by Congressional Quarterly, the AFL-CIO and the United Auto Workers lobbied successfully to kill the plan. Unions hoped to get a better deal after the next elections.

The rest was, as they say, history."

And which part has traditionally been the biggest supporter of organized labor?

Besides, you helped make the point of my original comment when you pointed out that anything that is passed will take 5 years to take effect. I said that nothing that gets passed should have any effect on the employment of nurses by 2012, the original question of this thread.

Also, I never said that we were moving too fast. I said the President had tried to bulldoze a bill through without allowing sufficient time for study, just like the bank and auto bailouts. Why some people take any kind of criticism of the President a personal attack on their own core values and beliefs is beyond me.

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I think if you have experience, there will always be jobs. I live in KC, MO area and a new graduate. I have my license and have been searching for a job since May 2009. All places want experienced only. There are GN positions...but they are far and few between.

I think for new grads in 2012, it will be even harder to get a job. Start looking early in your Senior semester. Also, it would be a good idea to get a "Nurse Intern or Extern" position as a Senior to get your foot in the door.

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I agree with the comments posted above- there will always be a need for healthcare providers. That being said, the three major hospitals in my area are bringing in hundreds of RN's from the Philippines. Now- our nursing school grads are having problems finding jobs. I see this being a bigger issue.

Has anyone gone public with this? My impression of the general public, is that they are not in favor of companies bringing in foreigners and giving them jobs that should go to Americans.

I would not be bending over and taking this you know where, if I was a new grad, and jobs that I could have been offered were given to foreign nurses brought in to undermine American nurses. There are laws against this. The squeaky wheel get the grease.

By the way, what city/state are you in? JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

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