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Hi everyone, please help me.
I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.
Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.
That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.
However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.
I already have my bachelors degree here.
When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?
After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?
Thank you!
i have email some agencies and one agency told me they do not accept inexperienced ones..."thanks for your enquiry. unfortunately it is our policy that our employees have a minimum of two years experience. the reason for this is that our clients pay a premium rate for our staff and they therefore have the expectation that our staff will be able to perform the work expected of them with minimal instruction.
you would be best to contact one of the major public hospitals in brisbane (the royal brisbane or the princess alexandra are the two largest). these hospitals sponsor overseas nurses and would put you through their new graduate program."
i have opened the website of these 2 hospitals and i also asked if i am qualified to undergo the graduate nurse program with my sitatuation.. i graduated in 2006 w/ no hospital experience and assuming that i am eligible for the bridging course and hopefully pass it...
and the answer is yes.
thank you for sharing this with us.. its a big help and relief..
I know... I was a bit shocked too. It's basically because of the bad state of the global economy at the moment. It has affected Australia too and they want to make sure that the Australians comes first. I can imagine Australia doing the same legislation as Europe - citizens first before anything else; and that of the US's status - retrogression because of the visa allowance. Nursing tho, is in a pretty bad shape at the moment and they still need to fill up these positions. I don't think it can be filled up in just 1 or 2 years considering the process of registration alone of overseas nurses takes a whole lot of time to finish plus the fact that most of them are nearing retiring age... but the only problem that may arise in the near future maybe is that all state will start requiring experience as a must for application - worst case scenario. So, I guess we better start moving soon as opportunities will not wait for us.
i just hope they still need nurses which i believe they do, so we still have the opportunity to apply, yun nga dapat apply early while experience is not yet a major requirement with some nsg council.. remember that the ex-president of NZ nsg council is presently with australia gov't to "improve" nursing practice, you know what she did in NZ relative to experience requirement and 2nd corsers..
actually this is what im scared of. Since most of the recruitment agencies/employers prefer experienced nurses, the possibility of sponsoring an inexperienced nurse is low.i dunno if after our registration with them we can secure a job. Well let's just keep our fingers crossed.
yep its a great concern.. but the probable painful option is:
apply in nursing homes in australia which accept inexeperienced nurses (i belive so)..
save money,, then go back to your country and gain 1 year hospital experience..
then apply in australia with that 1 year experience...
yep its a great concern.. but the probable painful option is:apply in nursing homes in australia which accept inexeperienced nurses (i belive so)..
save money,, then go back to your country and gain 1 year hospital experience..
then apply in australia with that 1 year experience...
I was hoping that. Im no picky so aged care nursing will do . Dont worry im just finishing my IELTS then afterwards ill share some infos on the review materials. Cant sell them yet im not even done with test A.
She was sponsored as an ICU nurse and not for another position. It is imperative that one must have the experience and an employment background that matches with the required position to be able to apply for a visa 457.
Yup I know you need to have the skills and qualifications for the said position but the thing is the migration agent you mentioned said a different thing about the registration part and that is the odd part. That if the registration is really essential or not.
Hi Aelith,
With regards to obtaining Visa 457, I think it is not imperative that an OTN should already be registered in any Australian Nursing Council prior to the sponsorship but he should be eligible for registration.
Kindly check on this site http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/sbs/eligibility-employee.htm as it states that one must meet this requirement among the others cited:
be eligible for any relevant licences or registration required for the nominated position
This must be the basis of the Migration Agent I have corresponded with.
I will get a first hand info from a colleague who is near the finish line of her BP at Royal Perth Hospital. Two weeks ago, she corresponded that she was already accepted by RPH for employment and she was processing her change of visa. She was even asking me to pray for her Visa conversion as her visa 456 will expire on Nov. 06. I'll post the info once she communicates with me.
God bless and have a blessed day.
Hi Cioman,
Regarding immunization, you can have yourself immunized in certain clinics which provide these services. If you are from Davao, Fabie near Ilustre offers immunization and releases certification(got this info from Mercan applicants).
Visa 456 takes 3-7 working days processing while a student visa will take at least 2 months.
The timeline for visa conversion is relative. It ranges from 2-6 months. If you are in OZ, you can apply for a bridging visa while awaiting for the outcome of your visa 457 application. In that way, you can still legally stay in OZ and do your thing.
Are you currently employed or undergoing a training program?
Good luck and God bless.
Hi Aelith,With regards to obtaining Visa 457, I think it is not imperative that an OTN should already be registered in any Australian Nursing Council prior to the sponsorship but he should be eligible for registration.
Kindly check on this site http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/sbs/eligibility-employee.htm as it states that one must meet this requirement among the others cited:
be eligible for any relevant licences or registration required for the nominated position
This must be the basis of the Migration Agent I have corresponded with.
I will get a first hand info from a colleague who is near the finish line of her BP at Royal Perth Hospital. Two weeks ago, she corresponded that she was already accepted by RPH for employment and she was processing her change of visa. She was even asking me to pray for her Visa conversion as her visa 456 will expire on Nov. 06. I'll post the info once she communicates with me.
God bless and have a blessed day.
You mean Nov. 08? hehe.. :) Glad that she has been accepted. I think they are doing the nomination and sponsorship part at the moment because she can't file for a 457 without it. Hopefully it will be finished before her previous visa expires.
Yup I have read through the immigration website a long time ago too about the 457 visa. It just states that he/she should be eligible for registration. But I guess migration agents would know better and the problem is they have conflicting statements lol. The migration agent I have consulted too is mainly helping nurses so I don't really know which is true. I can double check with another agent but I just don't feel like paying a consultation fee for just that hehehe. Anyway, it would really be good if you guys can be sponsored under the 457 visa beforehand, making your life easier. However, as far as the agencies I've talked to, they will only sponsor you after you have been registered because they wouldn't want to go through all the trouble and later on find out that the person they are sponsoring was not granted registration in the end. But, at least, one can apply for 457 whilst in Australia under a different substantive visa which is still good enough.
i just hope they still need nurses which i believe they do, so we still have the opportunity to apply, yun nga dapat apply early while experience is not yet a major requirement with some nsg council.. remember that the ex-president of NZ nsg council is presently with australia gov't to "improve" nursing practice, you know what she did in NZ relative to experience requirement and 2nd corsers..
Hehe.. I'm not too sure if all the needed positions will be filled up in a few years time. Plus the fact that visas granted are limited to a certain volume only. As for the experience, well, it is actually kinda logical to hire an experienced overseas nurse over an inexperienced one because they will be going thru a lot of trouble and would be spending a bit of money just to have that overseas nurse. I am really expecting the regulations to change soon, especially when the national regulating authority has been implemented.
Something to maybe enlighten you on how to achieve your dreams and to make big decisions. :)
Hope it helps!
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Thank you so much for your replies.. Not yet pa me apply.. First of all, the "Board Certificate" (which is a QNC requirement) of December 2007 passers will only be available sometime April-June 2009, so i will be delayed by this PRC inefficiency.. but i already have my PRC ID though..
Hope you could further clarify if you know something about below:
I am asking above matters just in case lang if you know the answers..
By the way nursemavi, do you need laptop computer for the bridging program? i know it's not a "requirement" but has anyone advise you to better have one?
I'm actually weighing my options whether to try the QNC Challenge Tests or to enrol in a bridging program, that's why i am asking several questions to you which greatly help me assess things. At the back of my mind, the main question is, which has a higher chance of passing and becoming an Australian RN, is it through QNC Challenge Test or through bridging program? Bridging program is a bit mysterious to me as to the level of difficulty and stress (e.g. NCP, Case Presentations which i hate, etc.).
THANK YOU. Hope you still have the patience to answer my queries.