Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
I agree with Silverdragon. The NLE would have more bearing compared to the NCLEX. The problem is there is still retrogression in the US and one cannot have the license yet unless you can provide them the SSN. And you can only have that number if you are at least an immigrant if I remember it correctly. Another problem is, if he can take the NCLEX without the local license.
All depends on the state but we are seeing more and more not issue a license without SSN, but I am sure they will want a local license from the country he trained in
Even if you have an NCLEX or you're an RN in the States but you were not educated there, it will have no bearing on your QNC application. I'm also an NCLEX passer, I have a license from the State of Vermont, when I applied to QNC I sent also a copy of my US license but it was returned to me labelled "not needed". They will only consider you're US license if you took your nursing program in the States.
in relation to this, ive known few filipino nurses who have years of work experience in the UK, and now they are working in australia, but before acquiring a registration in Australia they still have to do a certain course for them to be eligible for a registration eventhough they already got a UK license, well its still depends upon the experience.
I think everybody is correct that one should have to provide information regarding initial registration in the country where one had his/her education. But the QNC is very particular that one should have to provide information where one is currently or have held registration/license. This ensures transparency with the registration authority. You have to declare everything that might have a bearing on your registration. I myself holds a NY license and I have declared that by providing the council my certifcate of registration including my license to practice certified by a Notary Public. They did not return the certified documents and did not obliged me to verify my NY license.
Remember that we are signing a declaration. You are held accountable for whatever you're not declaring simply because this is lying under oath or perjury.
In the Philippines, one can actually prepare and take the board exam in 3 months time. IF you are converting BSN to BN in Australia, it would take a year and one would still need the NLE because the council must approve your credentials before enrollment. I am not actually sure about studying the complete BN in 3 years time. But that will cost a lot and would not be so practical. Just my .
i actually enquired at Deaking Uni in victoria about converting BSN to BN, and that was a year ago, and they told me that it will one year for the course and it will cost AU$8,000...
a lot of chinese nurses are doing this, instead of the usual 3 months course in victoria.
As for the courses in Australia, there are a handful of Universities that are offering the 1 year conversion program for BSN or licensed overseas nurses wanting to be registered in Australia. However, if one is pertaining to a "graduate entry" course, it is a 2-year course. I doubt that overseas nurses would have to go through the 3 years BN course as most likely they will be credited some subjects.
The graduate entry courses will have more requirements compared to a normal BN degree. The graduate entry course can require you to show your local license or experience aside from your TORs and course description. As for a normal BN degree, you will just have to apply for credits so your course length can be shortened.
If your husband already has a visa in Australia (permanent visa), then taking the NLE and applying for registration after will be the most practical thing to do (my opinion only). However, I will help you with the course should you choose to take that pathway. :) I'll send you my contact details too just incase you'll need more guidance.
Hello to everyone who are on this thread and everyone has been really helping out each other on their applications... I applied for Australia too... I had already had an assessment with ANMC and was told to have CAP. At this time, I already submitted my documents for registration with Nurses Board of Victoria (NBV) so that can give me the letter for the school where I would like to take the CAP. Does anyone here had the same with mine? Who are currently taking the bridging program now? Please help me on what step I should take after receiving the letter from NBV to take the CAP... Or perhaps anyone here can help me.. Thanks... By the way, im not on any agency Im doing the application process on my own.. Thanks to anyone who can post any regarding my case...
Hello to everyone who are on this thread and everyone has been really helping out each other on their applications... I applied for Australia too... I had already had an assessment with ANMC and was told to have CAP. At this time, I already submitted my documents for registration with Nurses Board of Victoria (NBV) so that can give me the letter for the school where I would like to take the CAP. Does anyone here had the same with mine? Who are currently taking the bridging program now? Please help me on what step I should take after receiving the letter from NBV to take the CAP... Or perhaps anyone here can help me.. Thanks... By the way, im not on any agency Im doing the application process on my own.. Thanks to anyone who can post any regarding my case...
Hello dudzy and welcome to this thread :)
As far as I know, after you get the letter from NBV stating you are eligible to take the CAP, you can then enroll in one of the CAP providers. There are several Universities that offer this in Victoria.
Below is a link of competency providers for Australia for your reference:
Thanks Aelith! How long does it usually take for NBV to assess my documents before they give me the letter to take the CAP? And how long does it usually take for the school to give me the offer of place? Thanks so much!
Thank you very much for the information you are sharing with us, and let me be an addition to the number of persons bugging you :):)
I have a question about the Bridging program,,,
I plan to have myself assessed by the QNC, take the challenge test and have myself registered in QLD. I believe that is the cheapest option right? But here's the thing that's not so clear to me...
Why do people still intend to undergo that 1 year of schooling thing (that's another type of bridging program??) when that would cost a larger amount of money and would take a lot longer to finish? Is that another type of license or degree? would graduating after a 1 year bridging program give us an "edge" over other types of BP? Hope you can shed some light on this coz that is the only thing holding me from starting my application,,,
Hope to see anybody in this forum in OZ soon,,, I like it here, everybody's so helpful,,,
You are all correct with that. But for those who are licensed in the US and the Philippines, you have to declare your license. I know it wouldn't help in your licensure given that you doesn't have the US experience yet. But as I have said and I will repeat it again, you are signing a declaration and you have to tell the truth.
hi kit25, I am also an NCLEX passer under New Jersey Board of Nursing. But I didnt mention that in any of my applications with ANMC or NBV because I dont have registration with NJ yet NCLEX passing result only. For NJBON, licenses are only given once you already have an SSN. In my case, Im not even there yet, no SSN, so I am not registered with them yet, and I dont I have a license number to declare. I think the applications for australia are asking only for Registration and license numbers if you have one. Basically I have none of those yet for my US license.
Thanks Aelith! How long does it usually take for NBV to assess my documents before they give me the letter to take the CAP? And how long does it usually take for the school to give me the offer of place? Thanks so much!
Hello dudzy :)
I cannot really give an accurate duration for you but it can take months to process the application in NBV. As for the Competency program providers, it can take weeks or so to get the offer.
Thank you very much for the information you are sharing with us, and let me be an addition to the number of persons bugging you :):)
I have a question about the Bridging program,,,
I plan to have myself assessed by the QNC, take the challenge test and have myself registered in QLD. I believe that is the cheapest option right? But here's the thing that's not so clear to me...
Why do people still intend to undergo that 1 year of schooling thing (that's another type of bridging program??) when that would cost a larger amount of money and would take a lot longer to finish? Is that another type of license or degree? would graduating after a 1 year bridging program give us an "edge" over other types of BP? Hope you can shed some light on this coz that is the only thing holding me from starting my application,,,
Hope to see anybody in this forum in OZ soon,,, I like it here, everybody's so helpful,,,
Goodluck mayts!
Hello jason and welcome to this thread :)
You raised a good point :) A lot of readers lurking in this thread might have the same question, so thanks for bringing it up.
As I have understood it, people here have different personal reasons why they would rather study a degree in Australia or go on with the registration (Bridging program). Some may be scared to fail the BPs which will be a waste of money in case they do fail. Others are not so confident to take the BPs, which is why they would want to enroll in a 1 year program to somehow refresh themselves and to be able to practice more.
Studying a degree in Australia, although more expensive, can have some added benefits to it in the end. Such course (1-2 year degrees), are pre-registration courses. This means that the student is eligible for registration as RN after they graduate. They are also eligible to apply for a place in one of the "Graduate Nurse Program" in participating hospitals (private and public). The GNP is mainly for those who studied nursing in Australia and is a 1-2 year employment contract with the facility. When you are in a GNP, you are rotated to different areas or you can be employed in one certain area for the whole duration (e.g. ER or OR). The GNP is very helpful for newly grads so they can familiarize themselves with the job as well to gain paid experience. GNP is also available for overseas grads, however, all Aussie grads are their priority.
Another benefit is the permanent visa which can be applied for by a student who finished a 2-year nursing degree in Australia. Only those who studied in Australia for at least 2 years are eligible to apply for a PR without fulfilling the required experience. So, after the student is registered, he/she can file for the PR visa. Also, the temporary graduate skilled visa is available to them - which is 18 months temporary visa. However, we all know that studying an extra 2 years could also mean additional expenses and you would only be working as RN after 2 years.
For those who would go for the registration right away, will have to apply for a 457 visa (by default, if you don't have any experience to back your application for a PR visa). One would need a sponsor/employer for this visa type. This visa would also require you to stay with your employer until the sponsorship expires. You are able to change employers after the previous employment ceases but the new employer would have to sponsor you within 28 days or else you would have to leave. You will not also be allowed to work for anyone else other than the employer who sponsored you. There are other conditions for this visa, which you can check here: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/sbs/
You will be able to apply for a PR visa after 1-2 years experience while you are holding your 457 visa. The 457 visa, by the way, is good for 4 years but sponsorship only lasts for 2 years (double check to be sure).
Some, just want to get out of the Country as soon as possible so they enroll in a nursing degree. We all know that the registration process can take months to a year to finish so that is another reason for them.
In the end, it all depends on your personal preference. We all have different situations and goals.
That's all I can think of for now. But I hope I helped you a lil bit. :) The others can add their thoughts to this one too :)
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But I hope I helped you a lil bit. :) The others can add their thoughts to this one too :)
Silverdragon102, BSN
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All depends on the state but we are seeing more and more not issue a license without SSN, but I am sure they will want a local license from the country he trained in